Nuna - PIPA Urbn

We have one but honestly the price tag just doesn’t make sense unless you’re really sold on it and it fits your stroller needs. We really liked the concept of being able to use it without a base, but the way it functions without the base is pretty annoying (strap across lap). It’s light, but they all get heavy fast, so that’s similarly not something that rises to the price tag, IMO.

I think you'll be happy with either stroller - but I would really recommend looking at Nuna car seats instead of UB. UB just doesn't design their seats as well and there are more issues with fit than Nuna ever has. Do you expect another kid in the near future? I prefer the fold of the Demi to the Vista. I get so annoyed with closing the Vista and opening it, but it is a dream to push! I also love that the Demi comes with a built in mosquito net, and the second kid seat is not reduced limits like on the Vista. I never even tried the Demi unfortunately and I regret it!!

That’s why I feel like Nuna is a waste lol. The evenflo are very very very easy to install, so it doesn’t make any sense to buy extra bases, and they don’t even make them actually

I’ve used it with both my babes and love it

If that’s the one you want and you know you don’t want a base, then no, it’s probably the best baseless one out there. The rigid latch thingies make it more secure and easier to use than routing the belt around. If you don’t think you’ll actually need the baseless feature then I’d get one with a base that can be used baseless if the need arises. We had the Uppababy Aria and the Nuna urban and strongly preferred the Aria. Well, strongly preferred having a base. Both seats are nice, but I do think the base is more secure and it’s so much faster.

This is a new limit. Our Pipa urbn purchased just last fall goes up to 22 lbs. So if it currently says 30 lbs, that must be only for a model put out within the last year.

For us, no. We have the Nuna. Babies just hate being confined. Mine screamed every time she was in her seat from 4 months to 9 months! We played around with the Chicco and Cosco seats too, to see if any would help (nope - they didn't!). We ended up switching to a Britax One4Life around the 4 month mark to give her more space and so she could sit up more and see the world, but still dealt with screaming. Same thing happened to my friend who used both the Chicco and Graco systems for their two cars. They will eventually grow out of the screaming - we tried to bring a lot of entertainment and snacks to distract her and it helped immensely. She's just over 2 years old now and chills in her carseat for trips so it will get better, I promise you!

We felt exactly the same. It’s so overwhelming. We ended up going for the Nuna Mixx Next and I’m quite happy with it. It folds easily and fits in the back of my VW Polo (I have to pop a wheel off but that’s super easy), not heavy (I had a c-section) and it’s not bulky like some others. I also really love the “dream shade”. We bought a bundle in the end with the Nuna Pipa Urban car seat and what I really like about that is it’s baseless, so we can easily swap it between cars and even a taxi if need be. Those are things I’d consider, as well as how big and accessible the basket is and whether you have to completely take it apart when you fold it.

Nuna customer service is top notch and its rated one of the best seats out there.

The fact that my Nuna weighs less than 9 lbs is why I own it, every person who’s ever grabbed the seat has complimented how lightweight and easy it is to maneuver. And I’d buy it over and over again!

I don’t have a full system but the nuna car seat and its adapters work well with our stroller (babyzen yoyo). We do find it’s easier to release one side at a time.

We have a new defender and used a Nuna infant car seat. Newer cars have latch bars that the car seats click into hut they also have ways to secure them using a seatbelt. So long as your seatbelts function properly you shouldn’t have an issue fitting most brands. Our kiddo outgrew the infant car seat so we just got Chicco brand convertible & reversible seat and base.

i love my pipa urbn! it’s honestly so easy to place and remove and i love knowing i can just clip it in any vehicle

My son hates nuna - we switched to graco and he was so much happier. But there is a stage where they just hate the car seat in general though

Separate worked better for us! We bought the Nuna car seat first and paired it with the Mamazing Air Lux since it’s light and has a built in adapter. We did use the car seat on the stroller early on, but that phase didn’t last as long as we expected once baby got heavier. Now we mostly just use the stroller itself. It’s been easy to push and light enough that we’re comfortable using it for travel too, so going separate has ended up working for us longer.

Not sure how old your little ones are but my 3 month old just took his 3rd flight today. The first two we had him as a lap infant because we had a car seat at the destination. It wasn’t too hard but definitely much easier with him in the car seat. He has a nuna pipa urbn (so you can compare size) & it fit perfectly in between the arms rests. The arm rests do raise as well, but we didn’t need to. The car seat also fit well down the aisle. Southwest allows 2 car seats in a row, but they have to be window & middle seat. Depending how old & if you breastfeed or not but we waited to feed him his bottle until we were taking off so that his first burping we could take him out of the car seat. If you have a seat for the child they have to be in the car seat during takeoff & landing which is somewhat difficult when they are so little especially if you breastfeed. If you aren’t going to offer a bottle a pacifier works too because they need to pop their ears manually on the way up & down. Depending on age as well being new toys that they have never seen before as it will occupy them longer. If they are still little they will most likely just sleep the whole time. Lastly, remember this is a form a public transportation. Children & babies are allowed to act like children & babies. Don’t be embarrassed or get overwhelmed by other people (easier said than done I know). You got this!!

NICU based car seat tech here- - Evenflo Litemax, especially the models with the one piece body insert like [this one](https://www.evenflo.com/products/pivot-modular-car-seats-and-stroller-travel-systems) (not sure they sell this specific car seat on its own anymore, I can only find the exact one I prefer in travel system form). The insert design promotes excellent positioning without pushing babies’ heads forward. The hip harness and crotch buckle adjust to be absolutely tiny (this seat starts at 3lbs). Between the harness adjustments and the insert, the positioning for small babies is truly excellent. - Joie Mint Latch- this baseless car seat has rigid latch anchors that pop right out on the seat itself, which 1. Is a huge safety feature and 2. Makes this seat just as convenient as seats with bases - it’s just as fast to get in and out of the car as it is to pop my other car seat in and out of the base. The harness doesn’t adjust as small as the Litemax (almost nothing does) but the body insert is supportive and the harness fit for 5lbs is good. I see this seat often and sometimes I do have to remove the head insert because it can push some babies’ heads forward but overall quite pleased with it (I’ve been using it for my youngest for about a year now!) - Chicco Keyfit35/Keyfit Max (same product with updated limits and names to comply with new federal regulations about infant car seat weight limits). Fits small babies wonderfully, is very user friendly, minimal adjustments needed over the life of the seat (remove the body insert at 11lbs and click the headrest higher as baby grows but that’s it). There is a built in headrest and a removable cushioned head insert that sits on top of that- I usually remove the extra insert to avoid heads being pushed forward in a chin to chest position. - Graco- avoid the Snugride Lite models, they don’t fit *well* until 7-9lbs depending on baby’s build. This can be worked around by using a crotch roll but that’s a hassle, just avoid it. If you want a Graco seat, opt for one with a large headrest like [this one](https://www.gracobaby.com/shop/car-seats/infant-car-seats/snugride-snugfit-dlx-infant-car-seat/SAP_2156211.html). These models have an infant body insert that is actually supportive and useful (avoiding the issues with the Lite models) and they allow you to shorten the crotch buckle for an improved fit if needed. There are several “trim levels” with different names - the extra stuff like winter covers and one hand adjust handles and whatnot are irrelevant, you can pick a model with the right type of headrest that meets your price preferences and has whatever bonus accessories you like. - Clek Liing - pricy but *amazing* for preemies. If you want a bougie car seat then this is the one to get for a preemie (skip everything Uppababy, and most Nunas). The infant insert is unique in the US but a common style in Europe- the baby’s butt sits on a block shaped “shelf” to promote good body position and prevent slouching. I’ve known people to balk at this design because it looks odd for US consumers but MAN it’s effective! The base is also lots of fun - rigid latch and load leg are great every management features. One of my own 27 week twins came home from the NICU in a Liing on his due date. - Nuna Pipa Urbn: same category as the Joie Mint Latch, it’s a baseless seat that clicks directly into the vehicle latch anchors. The other Pipa models (the ones with bases) aren’t my favorite for tiny preemies but the Urbn is lovely because it has smaller harness adjustments and a more supportive insert setup than the other Pipa models. The head insert has two layers and I usually remove the top layer to prevent it from pushing little heads forward. My youngest used this one for a while too! Two major drawbacks: it’s only available as a travel system with a stroller so it’s expensive and you don’t have the full market of stroller options to choose from unless you want to spend *more* money. (I have the Triv model stroller with mine and it’s solid but I’m not a Nuna stroller fangirl in general. More often I used the Urbn with my Bugaboo Butterfly stroller with adaptors). Aaand it has a maximum weight limit of 22lbs (compared to 30-35lbs for the others on this list). Most babies outgrow a 30-35lb car seat by height way before they reach the weight limit, but 22lbs comes quickly especially for higher percentile babies. My 80th percentile youngest was too heavy for this seat by like 8 months old. - skip baby trend. For the love of NICU CPSTs everywhere, please don’t get a BabyTrend seat. ??

Yes! We came home with our newborn in uber. We had nuna pipa which clips into uber / Lyft and rental cars. Like others said you can order a car with child seat but those are hard to find. We have used once for airport travel and reserved in advance and it is nuna car seat. I believe they have a partnership.

We have the Nuna Pipa URBN and LOVE it!! This is our first baby though so we don’t have much experience with any other car seat. We initially bought the regular Pipa that uses a base and it made our passenger seats virtually unusable (2016 BMW X5 and 2019 Volvo XC-90). The URBN sits lower on the seat due to not using a base and fits much better. It is a breeze to get in and out of our cars, easy and stress free to use in others’ cars, and I love that when I don’t have his car seat in my car all the seats are usable (none taken up by a base). I will say we’ve put it in a couple cars where the seat latches are covered with fabric held in place by Velcro and it has to be undone to install, which is less convenient, but hasn’t been a huge deal for us and in those cases we just use the included latch guides. We also heard people say the base is easier to get in and out every day but for us it’s been super easy, but again we only have experience with the baseless! I’ve also heard critiques about the size/weight limit, but my son was 16 lbs (25th percentile) at 6 months and it’s already pretty heavy. I can’t imagine wanting to carry a baby in a bucket seat around past the 22lb URBN limit personally.

We got our Nuna car seat from Kidsy at a discount because it was overstock. It was brand new and arrived super fast

Depending on where you are and when you’re giving birth your baby bucket could be essential. I gave birth in Quebec in December so the idea of just having a convertible car seat and a stroller with a bassinet was not a good option.  We ended up with a Nuna pipa urbn car seat, it’s super light and can click into any car without a base, which is epic for travel. Then we have a bugaboo fox and a bugaboo butterfly both with adapters for the car seat. I honestly love my strollers and my car seat; they’re very practical and very nice looking. The fox is quite bulky but it was amazing in winter, we call it the beast. The butterfly lives in the trunk of my car and is used for all indoor activities and travel. We’ve gotten a shitload of mileage out of it honestly.  Our baby is almost 1 and she is still in the infant seat (she’s mini to be fair). We have a convertible seat on deck (a Nuna Rava recommended by a friend) but we haven’t even unboxed it because the car seat is so convenient.  Last thing I’ll add - bugaboo has incredible customer service and went above and beyond with a warranty claim I had (it was actually my fault I stepped on the bassinet and cracked a piece). It’s helpful to know that when you’re dropping a bunch of money on these items they are built to last and the manufacturers stand behind them and aren’t a nightmare to deal with.  Thanks for coming to my ted talk!!! 

We personally got a car seat that would be compatible with both the full sized and travel stroller. We did a Nuna seat and Bugaboo strollers, and I think a lot of seats work with those Maxi-Cosi type adapters. I’ve heard fantastic things about the Clek. Do we use the seat with the travel stroller often? Not at all. Is it even necessary? Probably not. Is it nice to have? Yes. Would I be mad at myself in a situation where it would be handy if I *hadn’t* gotten a compatible car seat/travel stroller combo? Absolutely. So, completely necessary? Nah. But if you’re even questioning it, that means you’ll probably find yourself in a situation later on where you will appreciate just going ahead with it.

I’m a CPST who has installed hundreds of car seats and dealt with every company’s customer service. Nuna is top tier.

But the Urban has the latch anchors built in which is way easier than using the Pipa baseless.

CPST- feel free to PM me for more details or suggestions. Basically some of the more expensive brands are more complicated to install or are outgrown more quickly. For instance the nuna infant seat needs a rolled towel to get it level in most vehicles. Uppababy infant seats are outgrown very quickly. You mentioned Clek but Clek is one brand that is very recommended by techs. I own 3 of them myself. The Clek liing is one of the most highly recommended infant seats on the market. We couldn't use it in our vehicles because we have Ev's but that would have been my top pick otherwise. We own 3 Clek foonfs. The Clek also has adaptors for uppababy strollers if you go that route.

I love my mom cozy stroller and the nuna car seat! It’s a travel system which is so worth it in my opinion

Hi! Our LO was born in January. We did short walks until March / April at which point we did more carrier walks. We had nuna triv next plus pipa urbn travel system. We loved the car seat for uber and rental cars since it just clipped in. We would litwrally unclip with baby from the stroller frame and clip into it he car and the frame folded easily. We fee out of it around 7 months and graduated to the toddler seat. If you are considering buying that and would like to buy a gently used, let me know.