Hoka - Speedgoat 6 Mid GTX

The first trip I did with Hoka Speedgoats was a 26 mile backpacking trip, in the rain. They weren't waterproof (not really necessary with trailrunners, even in the Pacific Northwest). They were fabulous. No foot problems despite them being wet for the 5 hour trail. Hokas are super popular, as are Topo Athletics, Altra, Brooks, Salomon, though each definitely has its own fit characteristics. I've gone from boots to Salomons to Altras to Hokas.

The ultralight thing is true I guess, but my Hokas are so much more sturdy than that. I've been running in my Speedgoats for quite a long time now without any signs of holes and they are not that heavy. Altra is definitely skimping on the materials since they were sold a few years ago.

If there's travel over a good bit of snow, I'm wearing gaiters; either full-calf gaiters, half-gaiters, or even just dust gaiters like dirtygirl gaiters. I prefer to hike in trail runners (HOKA Speedgoats) and keeping the snow from getting into the shoe is a huge benefit. Plus it keeps my legs drier and warmer. There's nothing better than finishing your hike back at the trailhead or at camp with relatively warm and dry lower legs and pants vs. snow-sopped everything.

Same, I've got 2 pairs and they do great for Trifectas, super comfortable. For people considering, you'll want the cheaper regular version, not the MTX, since you don't want waterproof.

If you're comfortable with the Altra road shoe, then the Altra trail shoe is likely to fit similarly. Personally I've had good luck with Hoka Speedgoat and the Spartan OCR Speed. Hokas have better padding for races (non-spartan) where there is a mix of trail and some road. Critically, make sure you get in some runs PRIOR to your race. No new gear on race day, especially shoes.

I switched from Saucony Peregrine to these and I'm planning on switching back. After 100 miles they looked bad and now that they're 200 miles they look terrible. They still feel OK but they look about the same as yours. Back when I first started their road shoes were my go to but I had the same problem after 100 miles. The cushion starts to fray and chip off

OK, thanks. I got a new pair of speedgoats, so I'll have to wait to try some Mafates. Happy trailing!

Altra LP's are quick-drying. My problem with them is that while they're super comfy have a pretty shallow footbed, my feet/ankles would ache after a long day on rough terrain, backpacking with about 35lbs. I've since switched to Hoka Speedgoats and all that is a distant memory. Super cushy, excellent grip with the Vibrams, and they're okay at drying out, though not as good as the LPs. No, they won't last forever but the payback in end-of-the-day comfort is huge to me.

I've had the mafate and currently have the speedgoat 6. I hate the speedgoats and can't wait to wear them out so I can get my next pair of shoes. Mafates were excellent. I use them for trail running at all distances.

correct, speedgoats are designed to work well on trails, but they're not clunky either. i actually like road running with them when it's rainy because i feel less like i'm going to slip

The first trip I did with Hoka Speedgoats was a 26 mile backpacking trip, in the rain. They weren't waterproof (not really necessary with trailrunners, even in the Pacific Northwest). They were fabulous. No foot problems despite them being wet for the 5 hour trail. Hokas are super popular, as are Topo Athletics, Altra, Brooks, Salomon, though each definitely has its own fit characteristics. I've gone from boots to Salomons to Altras to Hokas.

I've got both of the same shoes. The Speedgoats are perfect, I generally like the Spartan shoes too but they have two issues: a lot less padding makes them tear up my heels (even when I taped to try to prevent), and they seem more slippery and don't grip surfaces super well, like Olympus and the rope climb.

Used to be on the Salomon bandwagon until about six years ago; went to Altras for a while, then landed on Hoka Speedgoats. Super comfy, very grippy, and a shoe you can wear all day, every day. While I have GTX version to use around the house and on some hikes here in the wet Pacific Northwest, I prefer non-GTX in nearly all other cases.

In Hoka Speedgoat I wear an 11, but also feel fine in a 11.5. In the Prodigio Pros I went to a 45.5. I also bought a 46 which is a little bigger in the toes but still feels good (mostly want that for long races if my feet swell). According to La Sportiva a 45.5 corresponds to a US 12. So my experience for me was sizing up from a US size by at least a half, maybe a full. Hope that helps. (Btw, I have three pairs, love them.)

Waterproof helps for shallow water like snow to avoid your socks getting wet. If water gets inside the shoe through the top, like deep water, swimming, dunk wall, it just means the water is trapped inside. The non-waterproof one lets water seep out above the toe box. I have both since I do prefer the waterproof on regular trails, but a lot of the Spartans have some deep water.

I used to be in the full boot group but have since gone to trail runners (Hoka Speedgoats). They breathe/drain better (waterproof is good until you overtop the boot or sweat too much). This includes both day hikes and multi-day backpacking trips. My best advice is try a few things and see what you like. At least with trail runners if you try and don't like they can become an everyday around town shoe.

I had the aching feet with the LP4s and moved to Hoka Speedgoats and never looked back. I can hike all day with the softer Hokas and my feet never ache like they did with the Altras. I occasionally wear my LP4s around the house and yeah, I do miss the airy toe box, but functionally, I don't think I'm missing anything with the Hokas.

I have hoka speedgoat 6s!

I saw lots of Speedgoats when I did it. If the Matafe are pretty much the same, go with them. Or just buy another pair of Speedgoats.

The Challengers are fine. I mostly travel to southern England and the trails there are easy. For running on the beach they’re great. The Speed Goats stay at home (Norway), where the trails are wet, steep and rugged. Both pairs suffer slightly from Hoka’s big weakness: durability.

Btw I have been a lover of Hoka Speedgoat for several years. I use a GTX mid version & use it for mostly trail running in ?? winter time. I use the La Sportiva Bushido outside of winter. * hiking boots vs trail runners https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouverhiking/comments/1ltydv7/hiking_boots_vs_trail_runners/ * What shoes do you swear by? https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouverhiking/comments/o77olh/what_shoes_do_you_swear_by/

I had three versions of speed goats prior. The midsole on the speed goats is softer. Grip is about the same. I like the upper on the brooks a tiny bit better. The big difference is the toe box (for me). My biggest issue with speed goats has always been the toe box being too narrow, but I could never find another trail running shoe that had a soft midsole, good grip, and durable, so I kept coming back to speed goats. The Brooks has most of what speed goat offers, plus a wider toe box.

The 5’s were my favourite trail runner hands down. Just the right balance between cushioning and stability. The 6 was a disappointment being too stiff. Such a shame.

Same; trailrunners 98% of the time unless I'm snowshoeing or on super wet/muddy/slushy conditions, of if I'm going to do a lot of side-hilling over loose scree where my feet/ankles/lower legs might be imperiled by moving ground/rocks. I just did 25 miles last week over granite, roots, rocks, dirt, and very happy with trailrunners (HOKA Speedgoats) w/ ankle gaiters to keep debris out. I was carrying a 30lb backpack. Sure, the trailrunners will wear out faster than boots, but my feet were completely pain, ache, and blister-free. That said, I used to hike in Altra Lone Peaks, and while they were super comfy and airy, at the end of the day, my feet/ankles ached badly. Once I switched to HOKAs, all that disappeared immediately. My first time ever wearing Speedgoats, I did 26 mile r/t backpacking trip and my feet were completely fine. Anecdotally, the only time I've significantly sprained my ankle was when I was wearing full, over-ankle leather boots (Vasque St. Elias). Just hit a rock wrong and my ankle went full over. I've done the same (hitting a rock) in trailrunners countless times, but their lower profile (lower heel/rise) means I had a lower fulcrum and could easily recover. I also think that with boots, you can become overconfident with how you're bombing down rugged terrain and while most of the time, it's okay, but if you start to turn an ankle, you're going to go way over and cause more damage than if you were going more carefully as you would need to with trailrunners. Again, that's my anecdote.