Hoka - Mafate X

Yeah - Hoka doesn’t make the rubber. But some vibram soles do seem better than others. Even within hoka, I think the mafate sole is grippier than the speedgoat.

Mafate is a fun shoe but it has a plate and can hurt on pavement. I’d stay with a shoe without the rock plate, personally.

I have the Hoka Mafate, Mafate X and the asics Trabuco max. They’re all very stable, but the high stack can still be a little risky. I haven’t had any problems with the Mafate 5 and Trabuco but have rolled my ankle on technical trail with the Mafate X. Maybe try a normal Trabuco? They’re wide and firm. The Mafate 5 are stable but a little less so than the Trabuco. I also use a Currex insole.

Agreed! It didn’t make a ton of sense to me that they’d feel extremely stable (or that on feet they didnt really feel like it was noticeably harder to get moving than my other shoes). These shoes are the only ones I have between road and trail shoes that have gotten smashed by reviewers and they might be my favorite. ??

I found all Topos to run short. Wore a women's 8.5 in HOKAs and a size 10 in Topos. I trained in the Speedgoats and Mafates and currently wear Pursuits and Ultraventures 

+100 sa Merrel Agility Peak. Nakababa ako sa Litalit Trail ng KXC na mabilis at walang kaba, kinuha lang ata namin ng 1.5hrs kasi unahan sa classroom sa Licungan ??. 80° descent yun na combinations ng rocks, mud, at paved paths na malumot. Binagyo pa kami nun kaya doble ang dulas at putik ????. But if may higher budget ka, you cant go wrong with Salomon Speedcross/Thundercross, Hoka Mafate/Speedgoat

I do like Hokas (specifically the Mafate for hiking/trail running) but if you are looking for a wide toe box you should look into Topo. Generally though, I wouldn’t wear trail shoes around town - the lugs that give trail shoes grip will wear out pretty fast on pavement. The person below also recommended Altra for a wide toe box but if you go that route, just make sure you know what a zero drop shoe is and adapt over time.

Trail runner will be fine. I was talking to a guy recently that said the AT requires real boots. But even by his argument, trail runners will be fine. The thing with trail runners is when you are tired, it is easier to roll your ankle. I have only found this to be a concern when I was using Hoka. Altras and Topos have less to zero drop and they don’t have this occur for me. Though Altras kind of suck for durability (expect 300 miles unless they fixed things). And Topos have less padding and are not as comfortable.

I didn’t like them. I found the grip not so great compared to my Hoka Mafates.

Yup I’m also Mach on the road, Mafate on trail. I sized up the Mafate and it’s so comfortable

I'm currently using Hoka Mafates and loving them. They replaced my old speedboats and have been excellent. Fairly light, great grip and incredibly comfy.

Satisfy Hoka mafate and they are good even in the UK weather!

Iv gone thru 1 pair of Speedgoat 5’s and have another 2 in my collection, so this is to say I enjoy the speedgoats. Over the summer I demo’d a pair of mafate’s which I enjoyed and didn’t find too different than the speed goats. I also recently added a pair of Oncloud Clouvistas which I did a 50k in and I liked those —grip isn’t as good as the speedgoats but similar padding. Finally Iv also had a pair of oncloud cloudventure peaks but those were minimalist padding and I felt the lugs wore out quickly so I wouldn’t recommend those

I ran 6 technical miles in the Mafate X a few days ago. My current fave trail shoes are Mafate Speed 4 and Adidas Agravic Speed Ultra, with more mellow days in Speedgoat 5. Verdict? Mixed. This is by far the SQUISHIEST and highest stack height shoe I've ever worn — and that would take getting used to. Even in my many different pairs of Hokas over the years, I've tended toward their more minimal models: Torrent, Instinct, Speed Instinct, etc. The tread was meh for steep/tech trails. The lugs are pointed like skinny arrows, rather than the massive mud-tire tread of the Mafate Speed. And the tread does not cover the entirety of the foam, which makes me wonder if they will break down or delaminate like other recent models. There's a big rock-grabbing hole in the foam, to boot. Now, for smooth and rolling "California carpet" types of trails? Might be great. The rocker is noticeable and add a good feeling of propulsion. But in these shoes I don't feel FAST, like I do in the Agravic Speed Ultra. And super rocky technical trails might eat this shoe alive. FWIW, the high stack height did NOT make my ankles feel unstable. The Adidas are more "tippy" than the Mafate X. That's a cursory take on my run. I was happily not in love with them (cuz I didn't want to plop down $225, but if they were magical I would consider it).

On paper the shoe doesn’t make any sense but I ran on these for Canyons 100k this past weekend and these shoes are far and away my favorite. For long trail outings, these are just amazing in terms of comfort without feeling like bricks (looking at you latest Speedgoat). I have the Tecton X 2.5, Zegama 2, Mafate Speed, the latest Speedgoat, and these and I’ll reach for these every time.

If you want a great Hoka 100M shoe I just ran in the Mafate X. They're a little more expensive but felt great throughout the entire race.

Hello :) J'ai 3 paires : Hoka Speed Goat , Hoka Mafate et Salomon Sens Ride 5. Niveau souplesse et confort : les Hoka !

Mafate X is a great Clydesdale shoe. I've been loving mine so far. Speedlands as well.

Hoka Mafates are the most durable for me. However I'm lighter weight. But Mafates are well made shoes.

I use black Hoka trail runners. They are miraculous, I can go all day without pain now.

I’ve switched almost entirely to trail runners including on a lot,of rugged terrain. I did find that when I was using Hokas that I had an increased tendency to roll my ankle after about ten miles. I like the padding, but have found lower drop shoes to be better for this. Altras are good, but I destroy them in about 300 miles. Trying Topos right now. Not as padded, but low drop with a wide toe box and they seem to be holding up better.

I'm part of the target market. I have a 30 Mile in August at Lean Horse (Custer, SD) on a gravel railroad bed followed by a 50K at the Wolverine State 100 (Alpena, MI) on crushed limestone and then the Dead Horse 50 Mile (Moab, UT) on slickrock. While I'll be wearing the Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Ultra for them as I'm a small guy and need a lighter shoe, the Hoka Mafate X trail is going to be ideal for a medium or heavier runner running ultras on similar surfaces. Because I live in Michigan, I do a lot of my trail running on forest single track. I wouldn't wear a shoe like this for training. The always dependable Saucony Peregrine for easy runs or a shoe like the ASICS Fujispeed 3 for faster paced trail workouts is a safer option. But there are many ultramarathons that aren't on gnarley forest single track where plushness is much more important for long-haul events than trail feel or stability. But also where the trail surface would quickly chew apart a max stacked road shoe.

Get a trail runner, such as HOKA Speedgoat 6, or the HOKA Mafate. But as others said, this is a question for r/hiking.

When I started trail running, I went with the Mafates - I thought they were a good middle ground trail shoe and they were great. Then I got the On CloudUltra and hated them - for all the hype they felt like running with cinder blocks for the soles. Now with Speedgoats.

First, I bought the Hoka Mafete X shoes, but they’re so heavy that they didn’t really feel like race shoes, even though they fit well. Then I bought the Adidas Agravic Speed Ultras. Phew, how can a trail shoe be so ridiculously good? At least UTMB won’t come down to the shoes.

I switched from boots to shoes years ago. I only use boots for winter conditions. The only injury issue I had was when using Hoka Mafates. They are super comfy. But so ‘tall’ that I would sometimes roll my ankle. Not bad. But enough to be wary and I switched shoes. I had been using Altras before and no issues but I would wear them out pretty fast. I have since switched to Topos and been super happy.