MOVA - V50 Ultra Complete Robot Vacuum

I wasn't talking about when the wheels were being extended, I just mentioned I only noticed it after it used the raise feature the first time. It sounds like there's a wheel off balance, or out of sync, or something. Going to troubleshoot some more to see if something's caught in a wheel somewhere.

To me personally it doesn't matter how much battery life is left at the end of it's job. It finished the job so that's fine. To test the resume cleaning I set the robot to max+ double pass on about 1000sq home knowing it would eat the battery. It went to recharge to resume and in about an hr it resumed and finished the job. It doesn't matter to me how long it takes for the job. I got it so I could be busy with something else and that's what I do.  But again, that's me. Different people have different expectations.

How tall is the piece of transition? For a single one up to 30mm, the roborock models with the AdaptiLift chassis (the most expensive QRevo Curv/Edge and the Saros line). Anything higher up to 4.2cm, if a threshold is less than 9cm long (5.2cm if it is at least 9cm long), will need the Dreame X50 Ultra or any equivalent MOVA model (V50 Ultra). I am aware that Dreame's L/X50 Ultra and any model (such as MOVA's V50 Ultra or the rare UK-only Dreame L40s Pro Ultra) that uses dual conical brushes has a *live fur compression* feature (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOOU0uJsVdU), which helps mitigate the issue of pet fur clogging the dustbin, even though the space isn't fully utilized. I saw it in action, and I think it lives up to its claim. It also cleans its filter when auto-emptying. This should be helpful for homes with heavy shedders such as yours\~ For paw prints, I think a robot that can identify messes like this and act accordingly would be important too. Dreame and Narwal do well with this if you turn on certain functions, such as their smart cleaning mode and intelligent mess detection.

I bought a saros 10r and a mova V50 ultra complete on prime day to upgrade from a s7. I kept seeing review after review of how the saros just didn't do a good job vacuuming. The saros also ended up being 330 dollars more than thr mova during prime day. Adding a 3 year warranty to the saros (mova comes with a standard 3 year) cost another 129 and the mova came with an additional $200 dollars worth of accessories. I couldn't justify the price difference and sent the saros 10r back. So far we are very happy with the mova.

A little late for this but I would go with the V50. Any model can have problems. I haven't tried the curvx but I tried 3 regular curvs and had to send them back. They dragged the mops when going back to the base.  I haven't seen a lot of people mention that so maybe I was unlucky, 3 times in a row.  The vacuum performance wasn't great either. I always vacuum before mop and there would be lots of pet hair in the base after mopping.  I have the p50 and love it. Got it on sale for 799. I did have to send the first one back due to water pump issues, started in less than a week,  but the one I have now has been going 2 months with no problem. Hardly, if any hair in the base after mopping. And my dust bag was full the first month. We have 3 highly shedding dogs and the roborock qrevo master does well but evidently the p50 does better. The roborock bag wouldn't be full the first month like this.  And I have generic bags that work that are a lot less so it won't get so expensive  to change. I have had no front wheel problem at all. Every manufacture can have problems. But if you need to deal with the warranty every time I have emailed Mova with a question or when the water pump went bad, they got back to me the same day almost every time but always within 24hrs. And not during the middle of the night like Roborock then you have to wait until the next night to email you back. Roborock was never a problem with me for warranty work it's just the process takes a while due to the response email coming in the middle of the night. Sorry so long but hope this helps.

Eufy is not mentioned because it does not have this capability. Best mopping: Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra has the best raw mopping performance. If your pets are stinky, the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track or the MOVA V50 Ultra will be my recommendation as it has the duosolution detergent tank which means it can use a special odor neutralizing solution or your regular floor cleaning solution based on your preferences set in the app. The MOVA V50 Ultra does mop better than the Dreame X50 Ultra because it can spin its mops up to 260rpm when it detects dried on stains and liquids and because it has a new mop pad holder that basically has suspension as it can go up 2mm and down 1mm downwards and tilt up to 5° to put as even pressure as possible on uneven floors. Honorable mention: Narwal Freo Z Ultra. Shame it cannot lift its side brushes. Variable mopping pressure of 8-12N but pales in comparison to the 18N of mopping pressure by the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track and the MOVA Z50 Ultra. Best software for detecting liquids and appropriately dealing with them: Dreame L/X40 and newer including the Aqua 10 pro track based on reviews. The MOVA Z50 ultra and the other MOVA models mentioned are also pretty good too at detecting liquids. Previously mentioned Roborock and Narwal models also seem to do well. I think all the models I mentioned should be on par for automatic remopping. Hardware: All models I mentioned should have a solid build quality.

The x9 Omni doesn’t have as long of a warranty compared to 3-5 years for dreame and MOVA products. I’d wait a few days to see what price the MOVA V50 Ultra will be sold at.

Models with conical anti-tangling brushes + live fur compression that works will be what I'll prioritize in a robot. Since your dogs shed a lot, I recommend the Dreame X50 Ultra or the MOVA V50 Ultra Complete, depending on which one is available. If both are available, I'd choose the MOVA V50 Ultra Complete for the DuoSolution tank, which allows you to add a regular floor mopping detergent and a pet odor-focused detergent for deeper cleaning to eliminate dog smells. Both models have live hair compression in the dustbin when it vacuums to best utilize the space and means the dustbin won't be functionally clogged from the inlet to the filter area but with space to spare on the sides (this has happened several times to my robot vacuum and I only have one corgi) and this has been proven to work.

Bigger dustbin + good use of dustbin when it comes to fur (no empty space should be in the dustbin when fur clogs it) + frequent autoemptying = better for dealing with hair and fur. For a vacuum only model, the roborock Q5 Max+ and the Q8 Max+ have a sizeable dustbin and uses the dustbin space well and has an autoempty station. The dual rollers help with fur pickup. In the US Dreame’s L/X50 Ultra fulfills these requirements as a combo model. So does the MOVA V50 Ultra for Canadian customers. The QRevo series has the same issue with some dreame models where the dustbin will be clogged with fur but there’ll be a lot of empty space on the sides. It’ll be good for picking up fur on carpets with its dual brushes but I think the eufy X8 should be better for dealing with finer dust.

As for hair pickup on carpet, I think the Dreame dual brushes generally do better picking up hair on carpet than the Dreame/MOVA TriCut brush on the P50 Pro ultra. Dreame/Eufy/MOVA/Roborock’s antitangle brushes that don’t need to cut the fur should all do equally well picking up fur and hair on carpets and hard floors. I’d recommend a robot that removes its mops for carpet as I find that lifted mops on carpets generally drag on it, collecting fur and dirt while negatively affect cleaning performance. As for mopping, ecovacs’ X8 isn’t really worth looking at given the other models already available (not in the US yet) that mop much better than it. Eufy’s E25/E28 should do better as a roller mop robot. For the spinning mop robots, MOVA’s V50 Ultra and the roborock flagships should be pretty evenly matched. X50 ultra doesn’t put enough water even at the max level which isn’t great for dried on stains.

My black Mova V50 is mostly matte. It's my #2 behind the Roomba j7/j9, those were really good looking robots.

I purchased a Mova V50 and a Eufy e25 to compare. In my experience the v50 was easier to clean/maintain and much better edge mopping. I noticed the e25 didn’t dry its mop aswell either, leaving behind a stench.

Also, the accessories are pretty amazing. I found the hidden mop pads under the 3 extra bags included too lol. All in, there are 12 extra and 2 on the machine. 3 extra bags and 1 in the stand. As well as all the filters, etc that everyone else mentioned. Very impressed with the accessories. I was concerned about my animals tripping out with them mova, but my elderly dog barely bats an eye (she was eating and it was vacuuming beside her lol) and one of the cats enjoys stalking her new toy so far!

I got it working after adding a manual low lying space in the app, works great now.

MOVA’s one is honestly the most innovative. Switching mops based on floor type wow. Eureka’s transparent stain detection seems good in theory but Midea’s real life application track record has been rather spotty. I hope that changes for them.

I’d recommend the MOVA V50 Ultra https://ca.mova.tech/products/mova-v50-ultra-complete-robot-vacuum and will recommend it over the dreame X50 Ultra especially if your floors need better mopping, you want to neutralize pet odors, and it has better vacuuming than the X50 Ultra. This is a very hands off robot as it cleans the filter, the mops, and the base station for you. It’ll dry the dustbin, dustbag, and mops to prevent mildew from growing.

The MOVA V50 can also climb and seems to clean carpets better than the X50 Ultra :)

Roomba isn't the best at combo robots compared to Roborock and Dreame which make better all-rounded combos. Roborock seems to be rather reliable. I'd also consider MOVA's V50 Ultra which is better suited for pet households since there's the ability for the robot to choose between regular cleaning solution and a pet-odor neutralization solution! I consider the V50 Ultra to be an upgrade over the X50 Ultra. Alternatively, I'd wait for Dreame's Aqua 10 Pro Track to release, as it appears to be the best overall combination robot vacuum and mop with a roller mop. :)

The V50 Ultra apparently can switch the mops and some side mop to get closer to carpets. Can’t confirm this through nova’s website but I’ll still take the MOVA Z50 Ultra as well.

V50 Ultra Is really a good robot with Proleap System and AceClean dryboard but...I would still take the Z50 Ultra just for the way better mopping even though it doesn't have the Proleap System

Great review! I'll add some of my thoughts too since I've also been using the E28 for a bit now. \- Completely agree about obstacle avoidance, I've found it to be the best in the business (I've owned Roombas, Roborocks, Movas, and this E28) Navigation is also excellent, efficiency is not quite as good as my Roborock QRevo but much better than my Mova V50 \- Vacuuming performance is excellent on hard floors and low pile carpet and rugs. The rollers work fantastic with hair. I definitely rate it a top tier vacuum among the robots I've had, though note I don't have any high pile carpet. \- Mopping performance is just "fine" to me, having owned multiple spinning style mops (a Roborock QRevo and Mova V50), I found those to be better at dried on stains. It's still a great mop though, and frankly this is just anecdotal. \- I feel like it does not get close enough to walls and furniture feet. \- It doesn't handle thresholds very well. I have a small threshold that's just big enough to typically give other robots problems too. The difference is the others usually figures it out by hitting it at higher speed and an angle after getting stuck. The E28 often just sits there spinning its wheels. I watched it do it for a whole minute once before intervening. \- The noise of the base when emptying is no joke and not over exaggerated. It's really loud. It doesn't really bother me, but it is a thing. \- The portable wet vac is nice to have but it's a bit unwieldy and I don't like that I have to take it off to get to the vacuum bag. It's a bit touchy to get it set on the base properly. It gets the job done for what I wanted it for, but in retrospect I wish I had just got the E25. \- The biggest downside to me is the dirty water tank on the robot and the roller mop maintenance. As a plus, the updated water tank does appear to stop the spilling and drips. However, the tank and roller itself are a complete pain to clean. And you have to clean them regularly, especially the tank as it gets very nasty if you mop regularly.

I have the ultra complete V50, it works really well

In Singapore, I’d totally recommend the Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track Ultra if you want heated mopping and the vacuuming performance from the MOVA V50 Ultra and the mopping from the MOVA Z50 Ultra.

Yep. Snagged it for 949

Isn’t there the MOVA V50 Ultra at 999? It’s even quieter than the Dreame X40 and has a bigger dustbin than the X40 ultra at 395ml and can compress fur in the dustbin as it vacuums, perfect for heavy shedding pet households. I’d recommend this one over the dreame x50 ultra mainly because it’s cheaper and it’s an enhanced version of the x50 ultra.

This is definitely not exclusive on the ecovacs X9 pro omni. Ecovacs is late to this feature. Models that can do this well: Dreame’s L/X40 Ultra and newer (assuming there’s an RGB camera), Narwal Freo Z Ultra; Roborock Saros series and CurvX, MOVA P10 Pro Ultra, P50 Pro Ultra, Z50 Ultra, V50 Ultra

Jamie Andrews did say dreame was working on a very similar robot to the MOVA Z50 Ultra but based on the X50 Ultra so it may come with even better vacuuming with the double brushes with a name that is too long to remember (I’ll shorten it to dualstream). Absolutely hated that arm thing. Gimmick was a waste of R&D funds until it matures into an actual solution that can help the physically disabled and the elderly. I would have preferred a better self cleaning design where they can clean the brushes and side brushes to turn it into nearly maintenance free. The MOVA V50 Ultra is also worth taking a look at. It’s the only combo bot that I am aware of that can change the type of mop pads (3 are in the station) through the MopCarousel system to better suit the floor type. It also comes with some duo solution thing that they claim will neutralize pet odors (I’d love this feature and I think many other pet owners will as well). It’s basically a souped up X50 Ultra.

Price was the deciding factor for me. On prime day the mova was 949 and the saros was 1279. Factor in that I would need a 3 year warranty with the saros which would add another 129 dollars and then the 150 worth of free stuff mova sends you, it just didnt make sense to get the saros

It depends on tall your thresholds are: For single thresholds: Up to 2cm: most modern robots can cross with no difficulty Up to 2.2cm: Dreame L/X40 Ultra. The dreame models with the EasyLeap wheels (L40S Ultra/Pro Ultra and the L50 Ultra) can cross the first threshold up to 2.2cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1.8cm Up to 3cm: roborock models with the AdaptLift chassis. It can cross a single threshold up to 3cm and a secondary threshold right after up to 1cm. Up to 3.5cm: the MOVA P60 Pro Ultra (mainland china only for now) has active suspension like the roborock Adaptlift chassis and the EasyLeap edge climbing wheels to climb a single threshold up to 3.5cm and a secondary threshold up to 3.5cm. Up to 4.2cm: Dreame X50 Ultra, Dreame Aqua 10 Pro Track, and the MOVA V50 Ultra all can cross a single threshold up to 4.2cm if the threshold is shorter than 9-10cm (5.2cm if the threshold is sufficiently long enough) and a secondary threshold up to 1.8cm.

Dreame and MOVA will be much better at avoiding cords than roborock. Both Dreame and roborock will definitely avoid pet puke. I’m not so sure about eufy but their cord avoidance should be alright. For pet fur, I’d prioritize the dreame X50 Ultra or the MOVA V50 Ultra (999 debut price if you sign up to their mailing list) since it has a rather large dustbin at 395mL and has a fur compression feature that works so the dustbin won’t get as easily clogged with fur and also have empty space at the sides (see the attached photo). This seems to be an issue with the dustbin on the dreame/MOVA models using the X40’s dustbin like the MOVA P50 Pro Ultra and the Roborock QRevo models. https://preview.redd.it/7c1epilq82af1.png?width=1346&format=png&auto=webp&s=d15280bdd75310e1d87e2557a9f350b20c85b02d As for fur tangling around the rollers, I wouldn’t worry about this issue for the dreame/eufy/roborock/MOVA models you’ve shown. Do note that any cuts in the rubber flaps on the antitangle brushes will mean the antitangle ability is deactivated and you’d have to change the brushes.

H14 is better for deep cleaning messes and the robot is better for maintaining that cleanliness. Many robots are rather quiet now, especially at the normal suction mode. MOVA’s V50 ultra is the most hands off robot vacuum combo I can think of since it can clean its own filter and the washboard very well like the dreame X50 ultra but also be able to dry the dustbin and the dustbag to prevent any mold from growing in there. It also helps that the debut price should be 999 USD in the US and that both the x50 and the V50 are really quiet when running.

So sorry it’s going to be released June 20th in canada with a discount if you put their email in. I don’t know the retail price though. Other models with the fur compression feature is the Dreame X50 Ultra and the L40S Ultra (no RGB camera).