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Avict001 • 3 months ago

I'm interested in the ziigaat odyssey, got to hear them at Canjam and they were a fun set

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Areion00 • 5 months ago

Aful p5+2, myer audio ck2v, kiwi ears ke4, epz p50, ziigaat odyssey. The 200$ish range has a lot of hidden gems based on my experience, so check them out. For EDM I think you need a good textured bass, great instrument separation, and good treble extension, but that's my preference, so I can hear the details from what the producer intended.

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alex-kun93 • 10 months ago

The KE4 and the DaVinci should be good for the sound signature you're after. The Ziigat Odyssey have a V-shaped tuning, which is not really neutral, but if you're looking for a V-shaped IEM those are the ones to beat right now apparently. If you can pony up $50-$100 more I can personally recommend the Moondrop Dusk, the default DSP tuning aims for the same meta tuning the KE4 and the DaVinci aim for, which is a mostly "neutral" sound signature with a slight bass boost.

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Aruiu • 3 months ago

I really love the Ziigaat odyssey, I've been eyeing it after trying it. It's the first IEM thats really wowed me.

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Afraid-Bunch6373 • 3 months ago

First of all, I wish everyone a good week. As someone who's been in this hobby for well over a 20 years, I've gone through everything from budget Chi-Fi iem's to high-end custom IEMs that cost more than my first car. When I first came across the **Ziigaat**[**Hangout.Audio**](http://Hangout.Audio) **Odyssey 2**, I wasn't expecting it to impress me much. The sub-$300 price bracket is absolutely saturated right now, and the bar for performance has never been higher. But after spending the past 1-2 days with the Odyssey 2, I can confidently say that Ziigaat has carved out something genuinely compelling here. I hear very interesting details at this price. # Build & Comfort Right out of the box, the Odyssey 2 strikes me as one of those IEMs that just feels more expensive than it is. The shells are made from a resin-metal hybrid, with a faceplate that catches the light in a way that feels boutique rather than mass-produced. Especially the shell is made of aluminum casting, it leaves a very nice solid and cold feeling in the hand. I like this.They're medium-sized, a little chunkier than something like a Moondrop Aria, but with a nozzle angle that allows them to sit securely without creating hot spots even after long sessions. I wore them for a full three-hour listening test one night and forgot they were in my ears until I stood up to grab water. That's the kind of comfort that matters when you're deep into a playlist. The stock cable is a braided 4-core OCC copper, and while it's not "endgame" material, it's pliable, tangle-resistant, and has zero microphonics. The modular termination system is a nice touch, letting you swap between 3.5mm and 4.4mm without having to buy a separate balanced cable. In short, the ergonomics and accessories are above average for the segment. One small criticism: I wish the eartips were presented in a more logical way. But they still come in a opaque, frosted bag, and these gel-like, soft eartips make it a pain to remove from the bag. A simpler, smaller box would have made the presentation much better. **\*\*\* (Ear Tips Used : Spinfit NEO)** \>> [Spinfit NEO Official Link](https://spinfit-eartip.com/#/product/productdetail/99?lang=en) (Spinfit Eartips, which provide maximum insulation performance and are made of medical material, were used throughout the test.) # Sound Signature & Tuning The Odyssey 2 sits in what I'd call a **balanced V-shape with reference leanings**. It's energetic enough to appeal to mainstream listeners but technical enough to hold the attention of seasoned audiophiles. It has a clear and detailed presentation. You will definitely like it. * **Bass**: Sub-bass extension is excellent, reaching deep into the 20Hz region without rolling off prematurely. There's a tactile rumble on electronic tracks like Deadmau5's *Strobe* that feels authoritative without bleeding into the mids. Mid-bass is a touch elevated but controlled - think tight rather than bloated. Kick drums in rock and metal tracks have punch without overwhelming guitars or vocals. * **Mids**: The midrange is slightly recessed compared to the bass and treble, but not scooped out to the point of losing detail. Male vocals carry a natural warmth, while female vocals sit a hair forward, benefiting from the tuning's upper-midrise. On *Phoebe Bridgers - Motion Sickness*, her voice comes through clear and emotional, without that shouty 3kHz peak that plagues so many budget IEMs. Instrumental separation in this region is strong, particularly with acoustic guitar and piano, which retain a lifelike timbre. * **Treble**: This is where the Odyssey 2 surprised me the most. Treble extension is airy and sparkly without straying into harshness. There's enough energy around 8-10kHz to give cymbals a crisp presence, but not so much that sibilance becomes an issue. The top end has a sense of openness that gives the overall presentation a stage bigger than you'd expect from a closed IEM at this price. **Technical Performance:** In terms of raw technical ability, the Odyssey 2 punches above its class. The **soundstage** is impressively wide, with more lateral spread than depth, but still offering enough layering to distinguish front-to-back positioning. Imaging is precise - you can easily pick out instrument placement in busy tracks like *Snarky Puppy - Lingus*. Detail retrieval is strong, though not on par with kilobuck monitors, of course. Micro-details like the reverb tail on a snare hit or the faint intake of breath before a vocal line are present if you're listening for them. Transient response is quick, especially in the treble, giving the IEM a sense of speed that makes fast genres like drum & bass or technical metal a real joy. Dynamics deserve a special mention. Quiet-to-loud transitions hit with satisfying impact. Listening to *Hans Zimmer - Time*, the swelling crescendos felt more cinematic than I've experienced on many peers in this range. **Source Pairing:** The IEMs scale nicely - they sound good straight out of a smartphone but benefit significantly from a cleaner, more powerful source. On the DAP balanced output, bass tightened up noticeably, and the treble gained more shimmer. Sensitivity is moderate, so hiss isn't an issue, but they do appreciate a bit of juice to unlock their full dynamics. **Final Thoughts:** The **Ziigaat** [**Hangout.Audio**](http://Hangout.Audio) **Odyssey 2** is, in my view, one of the most well-rounded IEMs in its price range. It nails the balance between fun and reference, offering a tuning that's engaging for casual listening yet technical enough for critical sessions. Build quality is premium, comfort is excellent, and the stock package is more thoughtful than what many competitors throw in. No, it's not going to replace a kilobuck endgame monitor, but that's not the point. What Ziigaat has achieved here is an IEM that makes you forget about the gear and just enjoy the music - and at the end of the day, that's what this hobby is all about. If you're an audiophile looking for a daily driver that won't break the bank, or a younger listener stepping into the world of serious in-ears for the first time, the Odyssey 2 deserves to be on your shortlist.. **\* Disclaimer:** I would like to thank **Linsoul and Ziigaat** for providing the **Arcanis & Odyssey2 In-Ear Monitor** for review purposes. I am not affiliated with **Linsoul and Ziigaat** beyond this review and these words reflect my true and unaltered opinions about the product. **Thanks for reading.. (ADR from Electro Audio World)** **\*** **Youtube Unboxing Video >>** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HixH7-PPx1w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HixH7-PPx1w) **Instagram:** electroaudioworld > > [https://www.instagram.com/electroaudioworld/](https://www.instagram.com/electroaudioworld/) \* **Ziigaat Odyssey2 Purchasing Link >>** [https://www.linsoul.com/products/ziigaat-x-hangout-audio-odyssey-2?sca\_ref=9444330.aiDThGLeXH](https://www.linsoul.com/products/ziigaat-x-hangout-audio-odyssey-2?sca_ref=9444330.aiDThGLeXH) ..

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AuroraFenyr • 7 months ago

I've listened to all except KE4, and base on what i thought: 1. If you like bass than the others: Aful Explorer with "L-shape sound signature" (on small volume). If you crank up volume to medium-high, sounds will much better but still focus on bass, especially subbass. 2. Harman enjoyer: Truthear Nova/Supermix 4 with "Harman/U-shape sound signature". SM4 will have more subbass than midbass, but doesn't bleeding to mid. Uppermid/female vocal sounds really good. Treble also, and feel it somehow better than Nova. If you like the "rumble" in your ears, you'll prefer SM4 than Nova, although both of them are Harman sound signature. 3. Less bass, vocal more sparkle than Harman: KE4 with "Meta/JM-1". Although I said I haven't listened KE4, but I experienced some higher "kinda" have same sound signature, like Softears Volume S/Thieaudio Hype 4. Sounds nearly perfect to me, not too much or too less bass, but vocal really shines overall. Treble reached enough height to not become too harsh like the name "meta". 4. Least bass of all with higher treble is S12 Pro. Cuz of Planar driver, the bass isn't really have much quantity, but it has good control, hit really tight, and decay very fast, which is not good for basshead. Treble is what it did best, it perfectly fit if you like listen to some genres with treble focus like orchestra or sth related. But if you like, you listen to many different genres, I recommend you choose Ziigaat Odyssey. Unboxing experience/packaging is very bad cuz they spent all money to the iems itself. Thats why it sounds good. If this will be your first iems then I recommend you should buy few cheap iems first to find out your liking. Tangzu Wan'er 2 for Vocal, Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss/Wyvern Black Remaster (will release soon) for Bass, and Moondrop Lan for Treble. From what I learnt, the number of drivers is not the factor decides that iems is good or not. Look at the KZ, dumped in a hell lot of drivers, and it still sounds like dogshit to me. Compare to Aful Magicone, which uses only one BA driver, but it can make none of the bullshit KZ with the same, even higher price range can mess up with Magicone. Or higher we have Softears Twilight which is my future target, have only one Dynamic Driver at price 800$, but it still have a lot of respect from many audiophiles. Even higher? Sennheiser IE900, 1500$, still 1 Dynamic also.

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Accurate-End-5695 • 11 months ago

Personally I would go with the Odyssey. I think you can get the same or similar experience out of a planar for much less money. But that is just my opinion.

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AnxietyScary4494 • 3 months ago

Odyssey 2 for me... God I love the design of it.

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AnxietyComplex4128 • 8 months ago

Yeah me too, I have some very expensive sets, like the IE600, and I prefer the EW300 over the IE600... I still prefer my Ziigaat Odyssey, or my Mangird Xenns Top, but damn the Simgot is indeed very very good for the asked price

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AnxietyComplex4128 • 4 months ago

**Pros:** \-Intense, dynamic but non fatiguing sound \-Bass quality \-Versatile warm tuning \-Good soundstage **Cons:** \-Not the same magical vocals than on the RSV OG \-Opening experience could be better \-A little bit dark sometimes \-Not the most technical \-Treble lacks air and sparkle**Softears RSV Mark II** *-Price :* Around 600 euros *-Driver Setup :* 5 Balanced Armature drivers, four-Way Crossover *The Softears RSV MKII was purchased with my own money, so everything I say will be my opinion and only my opinion.* >!About myself : I am a French student, passionate about sound, and more precisely, "nomadic sound", this ability to access music in high quality even when on-the-go, because I also travel a lot. As a result, I know more about dongles, IEMs and DAPs, even if I had some headphones and still own a desktop DAC/amp. I don't claim to hear better, nor to know everything, but I just want to share this passion.!< >!**IEMs I had or have** : Simgot EW200/300, Moondrop Blessing 3, Simgot EA1000, Xenns Top, Xenns Tea Pro, Ziigaat Odyssey, Sennheiser IE600, ISN NEO 5, Penon Fan 2, Ikko OH10, Letshuoer S12 Pro, Moondrop Crinacle Dusk, Softears RSV, Dunu SA6, Dunu SA6 MKII, Truthear Zero:2, Softears Volume S, Kiwi Ears Aether, Yanyin Canon Pro, Xenns Top Pro, Crinear Daybreak, Theaudio Origin, Punch Audio Martilo, 7Th Acoustics Supernova.!< *Devices used for this test :* Fiio K11, Samsung A16, CX31993 dongle, Ibasso DX180 *Photos by myself with a Fujifilm Camera* **Introduction** Founded in 2017, **Softears** is a Chengdu-based company focused on the research and development of loudspeakers and measurement and calibration tools. The fruits of their research take the form of in-ear headphones with a sleek design and high-quality construction. They are famous in the community for their great tuning abilities and the lively **vocals** some of their sets produce, the **og RSV** was one of their most famous set for this exact reason, for some, it had THE best vocals reproduction in the IEMs scene, will the RSV MKII be able to keep this reputation ? Spoiler alert, it doesn't even try to. **Personnel rating summary** |Attribute| Rating /5|Quick note| |:-|:-|:-| |Build quality|★★★★★|Feels sturdy, looks beautiful, and isn't a fingertips magnet, nothing bad to say.| |Comfort|★★★★☆|Very comfortable, can wear them for hours, but sticks out of my ears a little bit too much to be perfect for me.| |Accessories|★★★☆☆|It's ok, you have what you need, but nothing very original, and for this price you could expect better, it doesn't feel like 600 euros.| |Tonality|★★★★☆|Very natural, a little warm, but not perfect.| |Bass|★★★★★|Very good, impressive for BAs drivers, very rumbly, hit deep and have a great definition.| |Midrange|★★★★☆|Warm and lush, but a little bit too recessed for my liking because of the prominent bass(nit-pick). not as good as the OG RSV.| |Treble|★★★★☆|Good, but not the most detailed and lack some air in the upper region.| |Soundstage|★★★★★|Impressive, very wide for an IEM, holographic, deep and high.| |Technicalities|★★★☆☆|Good, but not class leading in this price category, I would have wanted it to be more technical.| |Value for Money|★★★☆☆|It is a very good overall, but I feel like you can get better at this price.| **Unboxing experience** The unboxing experience of the RSV MKII is original, the form and the presentation of the box is not common, you open it like a christmas gift and you take everything out of it from the top, but the surprises stop here. Inside, nothing really impressive, even more for a 600 euros price tag, I feel like the packaging is a little bit poor. When you open the box you find the IEMs, with the 4.4mm cable already plugged in them, then when taking them out you find some little plastic pouches in an accessories cardboard envelope. Those pouches contain a cleaning tool, two types of tips (classic silicone and UC tips) and a 4.4 to 3.5mm jack adapter. Finally, under all of that, you have the empty carrying case, a round one. The whole package isn't bad by any means, but it is not great either for this price. The box looks sleek and I like that, but the accessories are limited and don't really feel premium. For example I preferred the boxes in which the tips were sold for the Volume S, it felt like another product inside the product it gave you this sense of value. Overall I even preferred the packaging of the Volume S, the carrying case also felt better to me, but was also bigger. At the end, what really counts is the sound, the IEMs themselves, so I don't judge the product on its opening experience, but I wasn't quite satisfied with the one of the MKII, It made me feel like a step down compared to the Volume S package, but I can understand that Softears wanted to try something different. **Accessories** While Softears was not really generous with the amount of accessories, they provided quality ones. *-Cable* : Very good 4.4mm braided cable, feels very solid, but is flexible enough to be comfortable, not too thick nor too thin, it is a very good cable. *-Adapter* : This cable doesn't come with interchangeable termination, so for letting you use a classic 3.5mm one, Softears provided a 4.4 to 3.5mm adapter with the RSV MKII. It feels robust, and does the job perfectly, without any "pop" noise or raising the noise floor, it is just an adapter, and a good one. *-Tips* : The black silicone tips included with the RSV MKII are very classic, the same that you can find on a lot of other brands's own packaging, however, the transparent tips are great, they feel very comfortable and are sealing your ear canals better than the original tips. I liked them the most, like on the Volume S. *-Carrying case* : The advantage of this round carrying case is its size, it is not pocketable, but very easy to put in a little bag, it is nicely built, rather soft, and has a leather-like texture. I prefer the rectangle case from Softears, but this one is also very good, and feels premium enough to transport such an expensive product. **Build and comfort** *-Build* : This is, in my opinion, a very strong point for the RSV MKII, like a lot of Softears IEMs. The build of the RSV MKII is very very good, it feels sturdy, like if it was made in one unique piece, the materials used are very qualitative, and it looks absolutely stunning. I am digging for this type of class and sleek looking IEMs, without being lifeless. Those **are** classy, without looking too fancy, but still have a very original and complex faceplate design. They are probably the most beautiful IEMs I have had. They look even better in person than on the Softears's website, and the cable completes them perfectly... The build and design are one of the best points of this IEMs for me. *-Comfort* : Comfort is a very personal subject, even if some IEMs are famous for being uncomfortable for most people (hello Thieaudio Origin). I have medium-sized ears, and small ear canals. The Softears RSV MKII are comfortable, I can wear them for hours without any problem, they sit well in my ears, without going too deep. My only complaint would be that they are sticking out a little bit too much from my ears, but it doesn't affect the comfort at all and it is really nit-pick. **Sound quality** *Overall* : The sound signature of the RSV MKII is a total departure from the OG RSV. The RSV was very special to me because of its beautiful vocals reproduction and mid range overall, but I found it lacking in quality, whereas the RSV MKII is (very) bassy but is not as pleasant when it comes to vocals. The MKII is aiming for a more "all rounder" sound, and for that it becomes more dynamic, with an emphasis on its treble and bass. It makes this iteration more versatile, but also less special than the RSV was. The RSV MKII still has a lovely and very cohesive sound, as Softears know how to do. But for me, the RSV MKII will just be a "good" set, and not a specialist. While I can understand this new trend of "good at everything, great at nothing" to make more people interested in your product for its versatility, I find it sad to lose all those IEMs with a very "special sauce" and reputation. *Bass* : The bass of the RSV MKII is surprisingly its shining area, where it was the vocals for the OG, on which the bass felt less powerful and deep. Here, despite the all BAs setup, you get very meaty bass, with a deep impact, a very good texture, and a pleasant rumble to it. The sub bass feel natural and are well extended. The sound signature is warmer because of the bass taking over a part of the mid range, but in a satisfying way. The bass is very prominent and could be overwhelming for some listeners. For me, they rarely became too much, unless on some very special music. Overall the bass of the MKII are very good, they are prominent but are not making the sound muddy and they stay controlled, very fast, while hitting deep. The MKII has better bass than a lot of IEM with dynamic driver bass. *Midrange* : This is where this set becomes more controversial for me. Not that the midrange of the MKII is bad, far from it, but coming from one of the best midranges I ever heard on an IEM, I expected the inheritor to do better, however instead Softears went for something completely different, losing the very thing that made the RSV so unique. The bass is transitioning in the midrange later than on the RSV, making the voices warmer, and while it can really work great with some male singers, it makes most of the female voices less natural and emotional, like Agnes Obel for example. The midrange is good, even very good on the MKII, but it's less forward, because of the now more "V-shape" sound signature, and feels less textured for me. You lose this impression of "in your face" very intense and emotional vocals, which I loved on the RSV. The bass and Treble are now taking a lot more space, and because of that the midrange becomes just an element in the whole mix, not something that stands out a lot. Of course, it allows this set to be more versatile than its first iteration, but it also makes it less special, and less enjoyable when it comes to vocals. *Treble* : The treble on the MKII is good, though not the best. For me, the upper region lacks a bit of air, which can make the overall presentation slightly dark and cost it some technicality. That said, it remains textured, detailed, and more elevated than the first iteration. Still, I miss a touch of sparkle and upper brilliance to feel fully satisfied. It's understandable, though, as balancing such strong bass without pushing the mids too far back is a challenge. In the end, the treble is smooth, detailed enough, non-fatiguing, and even quite engaging - but it doesn't quite reach the level where it truly impresses me. It can feel too congested on heavy tracks. *technicalities* : The MKII is technical, but not a technical monster. Its tuning leans toward a more relaxed and pleasant presentation, yet it still delivers micro details, contrast, and dynamics. To give you a reference, the level of detail is similar to the Moondrop Blessing 2 Dusk - not ground-breaking in 2025, but more than enough for me. I'm not a detail head, and an excess of details often makes listening fatiguing, so this balance works perfectly for my taste. Again, I could be nit-picking about this lack of airiness making the set less technical. *soundstage* : The soundstage of the MKII is impressive for an IEM: spacious, deep, and very precise. It creates a holographic image with surprising verticality, giving a truly immersive "around you" 3D feeling. Instead of sounding too "in your head," it places instruments close around you, with some elements even extending far depending on the mix. That type of soundstage is rare to find in an IEM. Not the best I've heard, but still very good. ***Some songs with impression*** *Bodysnatchers* *- Radiohead / 2007* This song is very intense, and is composed of 2 different style, from 00:00 to 02:04, for the more Rock part, the RSV MKII does great, it manages to keep the intensity and energy of the song without any sibilance or being fatiguing, it also keeps the details of all the elements of the mix, I didn't like I was missing something. But again, I would have like more air in the upper region, because of the lack of it, the wholee felt too congested, not open enough, which is important on very busy tracks like this one. For the singing part from 02:04 to around 03:07, this is where the MKII didn't do that great the voice of Thom Yorke wasn't standing out enough in the mix, making it less enjoyable, and giving me less emotion than on some other sets. *Marooned* *- Pink Floyd / 1994* This is one this type of music that the RSV MKII feels the weaker, it lacks this upper sparkle and air, which is making the treble (so most of the mix) not pleasant enough, you don't feel it as much on more busy track, but here this lack of air stands out a lot. I am craving more air more brilliance when listenning to this song with the MKII *Once Again* \- *Clann / 2017* On very ambient and immersive tracks like this one, the MKII is really good thank to its immersive soundstage and powerfull bass, it felt very emotional, I really felt like I was *IN* the music, this type of goosebumps you can have when your device suits this specific track really well, here it's the case, the MKII is warm, lush, immersive and with good bass, exactly what *Once Again* is asking for to be properly appreciated. Because of that, I think the MKII will work really well with traditional warm songs like *Helvegen* for example. *Meds* *- Placebo / 2006* This music has a very intense passage at the end, with lots of instruments, a powerful voice and everything performed in a very dynamic way. This moment is very punishing for IEMs with a sound that is too piercing or not precise enough, because it then becomes unpleasant, being painful or sounding like a jumble of indistinct elements. The RSV MKII preserves all the elements and details well, which is a good thing, but it presents the sound in a very intense and energetic way. As a result, I often need to turn down the volume to continue enjoying the loud passage with the MKII, at the risk of the sound becoming too loud for me. On the other hand, the separation is good and well executed to maintain the overall coherence of the sound. **Comparaison** **.VS 7th Acoustics Supernova** The Supernova are my reference when it comes to all BAs sets, I also liked the SA6 OG from Dunu, and the OG RSV from Softears, but usually I am more of a "hybrid setup" guy. With that said, one of the advantages the all BAs sets often have is the coherency of the sound, with smooth transitions between frequencies while maintaining a good separation between the elements. Some hybrid sets feel like the frequencies are not "working together" anymore, and it kinda breaks the listening experience. Here it is not the case for either of those sets. They have a very pleasant and cohesive overall sound, but this is where the similarities stop. The Supernova has less bass, a more meaty midrange and its treble is more elevated. Because of that, when you crank the volume up, the Supernova has a very natural midrange, near lifelike, a very sparkly, airy treble region while staying neutral, and without being fatiguing or sibilant. The bass of the Supernova are not as good as the RSV MKII's, they feel less impactful, they aren't hitting as deep and as precisely as on the RSV MKII, they are enough for me, but not in the best quality. On the other hand, the treble of the Supernova is really magical, while they lack this upper brilliance on the MKII. The mid range also feels more natural and forward on the Supernova. The RSV MKII would work better on very bass demanding tracks, but I would take the Supernova on pretty much any other music genre. **Conclusion** : While they are both great sets and trading blows on some factors, the Supernova really feel more special to me, the RSV MKII really give me this "deja-vu" impression, it is good, versatile, but you can find a lot of similarly tuned sets in the market, whereas the Supernova really is original, and is offering more than just a "good" sound, while staying very versatile in my opinion. **.VS OG RSV** (sorry for the photo, I don't have the RSV OG no more ) It is quite simple here, I feel like the MKII has pretty much the same treble experience as the RSV OG, better bass than it, and doesn't have this very unique and emotional midrange. The MKII will be more versatile and less fatiguing than the OG, but it will not be the "vocals specialist" anymore, it is "just" a good set. Also, the RSV had less bass, allowing me to crank the volume more, and to feel like its presentation was a little bit more airy and detailed than the MKII, but it is very subtle. **conclusion** : The Softears MKII is more versatile in its tuning than its predecessor, but it doesn't have the very unique vocal quality of the OG RSV. If I could only have one, I would take the MKII, while knowing that this set will be good on everything but will not make me feel the same emotions as the OG RSV **Conclusion and recommendation** *Who is this set for :* \-If you are looking for a very versatile tuning that will suit pretty much any music genre. \-If you want the BAs coherency while keeping very good bass. \-If you are searching for a beautiful IEM. \-If you want a fun and dynamic but non-fatiguing sound. *Who this set isn't for :* \-If you are looking for a specialist. \-If you're a treble-head. \-If you want the best value for money. \-If you want a neutral/bright sound presentation. **My thoughts** I liked the Softears RSV MKII, but not enough to recommend it, taking its price into account. This set is great, but doesn't offer anything really special that would make it shine in the mass. Its bass is very good, and is its best point, but the midrange is just good, without anything very special, unlike the first iteration of RSV, and its treble is detailed, has a good texture but lacks some air, even making the set too dark at lower volume. So unless you really love the design of the set (which is beautiful I agree), or you absolutely want all the Softears sets, I don't think this one is a very good value for its price, the Mega5est or the Supernova as good with a "special sauce" to them making them more unique (lifelike timbre, beautiful treble etc). And like I said, this set is good at everything, special for nothing. It's disappointing because I loved the RSV OG and the Volume S, which are, for me, really unique.

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AnxietyComplex4128 • 3 months ago

Yeah, the RSV MKII are definitely a fun set, they are too dark for me, but it is still a great set overall, this hobby is very hard because pretty niche, in France we don't have shops where we can try IEMs, so it is always kind of a blind buy at the end. The Odyssey 2 is very good, and would be a good all rounder for sure, the Mge5Est is also a very safe pick, nothing special but also nothing to hate on it.

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redditor • about 9 months ago

Well it's not all that similar but I also love the Ziigaat Odyssey, not as much bass but still plenty, and more clean balanced kind of tuning. The tuning's got that special sauce that provides an immersive and involving experience. They're nice to crank, then that gets the bass thumpin'.

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redditor • about 2 months ago

i really like them, paired with the divinus velevets they are really good for gaming and music

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redditor • about 10 months ago

I picked up the Odysseys and they are fantastic, I can't really fault any part of the sound or packaging besides MAYBE the "only okay" cable, but I have a half-dozen better cables lying around anyway. They're a terrific all-rounder set that fits my sound tastes so well, I really can't see myself needing anything else unless I wanted to make a profound price jump to, say, an Oracle Mk3 or a Dunu BD.

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redditor • about 4 months ago

If you can afford the MKIV, it is truly amazing, metal shell, tuning switches that make it a very close MKII tuning or a MK3-LTD. If not that I would say the tea pro or odyssey 2 for less bass, I personally regret and truly hated the top pro, I loved the vocals but there was in fact some weird warm. And the 3D shell IMHO was a downgrade from resin builds, felt like I could crush it. Could be a pro for you if you really hate the weight of IEMs. The RSV MKII looks nice and graphs amazing but for a 5BA set, 700$ seems a little much tbh. Dawn X looks great, but the only thing to consider is if you care about bass it definitely is more balanced or reference tuning, so is the MKIV but has 2 options if you ever want to tone it up or down. PLUS, it doesn't have a lip on the nozzle so tips could get stuck in your ear every now and then. I'll end by saying that the MKIV is basically a better top pro, with rumble off it graphs almost identical, and has ESTs. Top pro has a very noticable mid bass scoop and thats what most reviewers dislike when they say it doesnt have enough bass. If you want something more affordable than the MKIV while being like the top pro I would look at the NiceHCK Rockies, for the same 500$ you get more for your money (BUT doesn't have a lot of bass, tea pro would be the better alternative).

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redditor • about 3 months ago

Wow those look nice bro, that accessories game is no joke either. Yeah I was going to say the same thing with my Odyssey 2's hooked up to my FiiO QX13 on high gain they're not bad but I have to run desktop mode to really get them to come alive lol. Nice job bro.

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redditor • about 9 months ago

Much talk of the Deuce which can offer massive sub-bass but only modest amounts of mid-bass, less than the Rosefinch. What you really want is the Kiwi x HBB Punch, but it's double your budget so just keep it in mind for endgame. Sneaky good for EDM are the Ziigaat Odyssey, though you have to crank them. But lotsa mid-bass thump and sub-bass rumble, while maintaining balance and clarity. They have immersive special sauce as well.

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redditor • about 2 months ago

Ok, I'll go with my experience, I started with the Kiwi quartet (nice basses), then the Simgot EM6L, then I took the Ziigaat Odyssay and I'll tell you, my best choice falls on the Simgot, the crazy Odyssay, absolute definition of massive sub bass, incredible soundstage width and tonal clarity but what an effort... the Simgot tweaked just on the bass (I use Qudelix 5k DAC) becomes syraordinaria, always enjoyable and precise... in my experience I recommend Simgot, kiwi quartet for bassy electronics, Odyssay for instrumental pieces perhaps without too high-pitched wind instruments or female voices (they break the ears) and not too high volume.

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redditor • about 8 months ago

If you're not too treble sensitive I can vouch for Ziigaat Odyssey. I've been gravitating towards breakcore recently (mostly Igorrr and more ambient stuff like Sewerslvt) and it really shine in these genres. Good bass impact and rumble, and detailed upper register where the crazy drums happens. I don't really enjoy the Odyssey for metal / punk adjacent stuff (which are my default genres), but I was pleasantly surprised to see how well it handled breakcore.

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redditor • about 9 months ago

I love the Ziigaat Odyssey, clean and balanced yet still strong mid-bass punch and sub-bass slam. Totally immersive experience, a true pleasure with special sauce tuning. More modest entry level would be the 7hz Zero 2. Decent but not spectacular, it's balanced with good bass. Also there's the default Truthear Zero Red and Blue 2. I have the Red, which is neutral with bass boost, again decent but not too exciting.

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redditor • about 2 months ago

if you can strech a bit extra i would go for the xiggat oddeys, they are phenominal for gaming and music

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redditor • about 3 months ago

I really love the Ziigaat odyssey, I've been eyeing it after trying it. It's the first IEM thats really wowed me.

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redditor • about 9 months ago

I have the Aful and EW300. Sold the Supermix 4. For gaming and or just big sound the supermix 4 is best but felt clinical. The Aful sounded the muddiest but it's actually not muddy at all, it's just very smooth and is my go to for all day fatigue free listening at work. EW300 is my backup that never gets used. Good all arounder but the smallest sound. These days, I use the Ziigaat Odyssey for music enjoyment.

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redditor • about 10 months ago

I think your preferences would be far better served by something like the KiwiEars KE4, or the also new Ziigaat Odyssey. As your preference with Fan3 would indicate you like that later JM1 style upper mids Pina Gain. An out of left field alternative would be the AFUL Performer 5. Or possibly the Performer 5+2 (or Performer 7 as some people call it). Personally the Performer 5 is a little brighter, which leans more towards the Fan3, but the 5+2 has a little more clinical detail up top. And way out in super right field, is the KiwiEars Airoso, it might be a little too U shaped for proper monitor use. But it is very clean in the upper mids and treble, and has excellent detail. There really isnt anything i have found that the Airoso cant play well. And for the current sub-$100 price, it punches WAY above its price target. Not that you came here looking for advice, buuuuttt...its interesting to get some alternative perspectives. https://audioamigo.squig.link/?share=Ziigaat_Lush,Ziigaat_Cinno,Ziigaat_Odyssey,Penon_Fan_3_BC_Off,Kiwi_Ears_KE4,AFUL_Performer_5,Kiwi_Ears_Airioso

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redditor • about 11 months ago

Btw tested with Dunu S&S tips cus the tips that comes with it kinda sucks? They're on the harder side and the surface is not sticky at all hence I can't get a good seal on em.

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redditor • about 4 months ago

the monarch mkiv can sound jarring if you're coming from a warmer iem (i have the sa6 mk2 and it's hard for me to categorize. sometimes it sounds warm, sometimes it sounds open and bright-not sure how you hear it). but, since it's already in your hands, i'd give it some more time. just today, i put mine on and found them to be warmer than i remembered. sometimes it just depends on what you heard last, how tired you are, etc. otherwise, maybe the mega5est. it's more vocal forward than the sa6 mk2 and more conventionally tuned, so it would complement your sa6 by giving you something that sounds a little more proper while being more laid back and natural than the monarch mkiv. you also don't give up too much in terms of technicalities. coming from the monarch mkiv, the bass will definitely sound less defined, but i think it fits the overall sound signature well. some people call the mega5est boring, but musicality is subjective and hard to define. i'm a neutral head and the mega5est has a touch more warmth and bass than what i consider neutral, so in that sense, it's musical to me. if you want to be risk-averse, the ziigaat arcanis has pretty much replaced the sa6 mk2 in my rotation. it's what i expected the sa6 mk2 to sound like (and what i wanted the mega5est to sound like). a bit more sub bass and bit more satisfying bass overall. i find the upper mids and vocals of the sa6 mk2 to be too recessed and the arcanis addresses this by bringing them forward just a smidge (but not as much as the mega5est). vocals have a vibrant quality to them that you might consider musical. and there is just enough treble extension to give it air and sparkles. it doesn't come across as technical as the sa6 mk2, but all of the details are still there. it's unique and i actually like it more than the mega5est, but that comes down to how it fits in my collection penon/isn has been recommended a lot. i can vouch for the ebc80. its warm, has phenomenal sound stage, and is super fun. it isn't fatiguing at all to me, but it doesn't really fall under the category of laid back. their other iems might for the bill, though. these recommendations i think would be an "upgrade" to the sa6 mk2. however, my philosophy is that for a laid back sound, you don't need to spend a lot of money. so personally, my warm, laid back iem is the ziigaat arcadia. it's warm, punchy, has just enough treble, and with the right tips, can sound just as well-executed and beautiful as anything in the $200-$250 range. i prefer it to my penon serial and canon 2 for this purpose. i've also been going to the odyssey 2 a lot for a laid back listen, though it is not as warm. the punch audio martilo is also a good choice if you think you can tolerate a lot of sub bass. it sounds mostly normal and conventional, which, like the mega5est, could complement the sa6 mk2 well. when there isn't a lot of sub bass in a song, it doesn't sound like a bass head iem. but when there is, the bass sounds like you have a sealed subwoofer in front of your face.

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redditor • about 3 months ago

as alot of other people are saying, i think you can get endgame for $350 or less. i personally find the Ziigaat Odyssey to do almost everything i'd want from an IEM, and in combo with a desktop dac/amo like Fosi K7 that i own, i could probably leave the hobby right now. i stick around mostly because i find listening to new hardware enjoyable, regardless of if it's "endgame"material or not.

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redditor • about 2 months ago

Thanks! I did do write-ups of both on Head-fi. Odyssey is my main IEM and it's close to being a perfect IEM for me. It isn't the most detailed or anything but it's great if you're treble sensitive, and it handles basically every genre amazingly. It's warm and bassy but not overly bassy, subbass is really restrained and bass lingers which I really like. It never gets muddy though. MK4 is more of a refined V-shaped tuning with insanely good detail retrieval, though that's sort of expected for $1k haha. However, I find its presentation of treble and micro details a little unnatural sounding. However the rumble mode is really fun. Increases midbass a bit and it's pretty great for rock music. I just don't think MK4 is worth its price tag IMO. Sets like Moondrop variations for example present detail way more naturally for a much lower price. Its ability to do rumble mode kind of is what saves MK4 and makes it more "worth" its price tbh.

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redditor • about 10 months ago

Yeah the Odyssey are by far my favourite IEM in this price bracket. Someone from Ziigaat thought "Hey, what's the name of the best IEM in the world? Subtonic Storm? Let's built an IEM which at least graphs the same" ... and it worked out. Of course there are still worlds between, but for that price, great!

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redditor • about 4 months ago

I'm interested in the ziigaat odyssey, got to hear them at Canjam and they were a fun set

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redditor • about 4 months ago

I'm trying the Odyssey 2, amazing pair for 191 eur

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redditor • about 10 months ago

YES the Odyseey is very special. I often can't chose between them and my Estrella's Ziigaat is making some great IEMs.

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redditor • about 11 months ago

Everybody's ears are different. The stock ear tips work perfectly in my ears and imho are quite good. Yes I've tried 7 or 8 different tips with these. I love my Estrella's but when they are a bit to aggressive the Odyssey's balance fits the spot very nicely. Ziigaat seems to underprice all their products making them a great deal. If I had paid $280 -$300 for the Odyssey's I'd still be a happy customer.

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redditor • about 4 months ago

Just got mine, They're pretty good. I think I like them slightly more than hype 4s because the bass is less fatiguing. Definitely worth it. Although I'm looking for something with better soundstage, imaging and little more detail so I might return them

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redditor • about 6 months ago

Ziigaat Odyssey hands down lol

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redditor • about 10 months ago

Oh that's definitely on the more expensive side cus I got mine for about 190ish euro after conversion directly from Ziigaat's website. That said, IMO you should ALWAYS trust your own ear. If you feel like the Odyssey is not worth the upgrade then sure pls refund it and save yourself some money. But as someone who's in this hobby I would say maybe you should give a few more IEMs around this price range (or maybe higher) a chance and who knows maybe you'll find something you like.

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redditor • about 4 months ago

I would suggest go for 50-80$+ upgrades rather than huge jumps. To be safe its better to go for iems that are more in the balanced category and check if it suits with the graph of your latest used one. What I personally noticed is that going over the 150$ price point most iems get studio quality details, textures and insturment isolation to the point that some tracks sound uncompressed and it falls on you to adjoint the parts together in your head. This kinda gives a new sense of sound perception I never experienced before. This happened when listening to OG oddysey, Astrals and now Oddysey 2.

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redditor • about 3 months ago

Odyssey too bright? I think you either got a bad seal on it or its defective. Ody isnt the warmest set but its definitely not bright either. And its one of those sets that scales very well with volume. In fact id say it NEEDS volume to sound best.

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redditor • about 11 months ago

First off I wanna say I'm not an audiophile so my opinion might sound newbish so forgive me. This is actually only my 3rd set with Chu 2 and Truthear Hexa being my 1st & 2nd. And since I can only compare this to the Hexa my initial impression was that the Odyssey is so much more "musical" compared to the neutral tuned Hexa. The bass on the Odyssey has very clean texture and has more presence and yet it has quick decay so it sounds really clean. Tho Id say it can still have more rumble. For the midrange I feel like it focuses more on the tone so everything feels very rich(especially on EDMs) while the vocal is ever so slightly recessed. The treble is where I see quite a few ppl have complains about and I can hear why now that I have em on. It's very bright (not to the point of sharp but almost there) so if you're treble sensitive pls avoid this set, and IF you're not this makes all the instrumental very lively and bright and it's such a vibe imo (luckily I'm not treble sensitive) It's hard to comment on the Tech cus I don't have much to go off to make a comparison but I'll try. Imaging and Resolution is definitely the strong point of this set, very pinpoint/precise and very good detail retrieval. While the soundstage(with my 1hr ish of listening) is decent but I'd say not like it "wowed" me if compared to the Hexa. All and all it's a very very musical set. Works on many genres (tested on j-pop, rock, edm, post rock, hip-hop, classical, slow indies) with EDM standing out amongst them. DON'T BUY if you're treble sensitive. BUY if you're not treble sensitive it's just that easy this is such a good set to just vibe.

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redditor • about 5 months ago

I love my Ziigaat's Estrella and Odyssey but it dose seem ridicules how many slightly different models they are putting out. How about a truly endgame model for much less than others, Say a Thieaudio Monarch MKIV quality IEM for say $850.

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redditor • about 5 months ago

I'm probably in the minority here, but I have no complaints about a company releasing a ton of options with branded Knowles or Sonion BAs instead of bellsing crap. People have no idea the price difference in branded BAs is sometimes an increase of 10X over drivers companies like Aful use. If you are at all familiar with graphs and how an IEM diverges from JM-1 (neutral), plus the different properties of certain driver types (Dynamic vs. BA vs. Planar etc) you can usually guess 90% of what it sounds like. I like options. My only complaint is their shell shape creates a pressure point on the top/back of my ear. Ziigaat's shells are the only ones I've ever had a problem with. CHANGE UP THE SHELL SHAPE GUYS.

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redditor • about 9 months ago

Odyssey abs Arete are two that I'd really love to own huu

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redditor • about 10 months ago

This will be a very quick review. About me: I am coming from the Moondrop Variations as my daily driver. I just wanted something non-harman/meta-tuned which does not break the bank. I tested many IEMs in different price ranges. After I daily used the Odyssey now for a few weeks, I feel confident enough to write a short review. The best thing about the Odyssey is no doubt the tuning. It's rooted on the new meta with adding a bit more excitement in the bass and treble, but really just a bit. It sounds very different as my last daily driver, which have a much more colorised tuning (harman IE 2019) - which can sound great, but they are really hit and miss depending on the song. That's the reason why I decided I need something more versatile which works with all sorts of content (basically all music genres, movies, gaming). I consider this a "common sense endgame", because if someone wants to enter the expensive world of IEMs, the Odyssey can be reasonable advised as an one-and-only purchase because of it's sound signature. This can be of course also said about other meta-tuned IEMs in that price range. They don't really differ a lot in how they sound. If you looking at higher price ranges, there is the Monarch MK2 with a similar tuning but much better technicalities. I A/B tested both while testing and can say with confidence that the difference here is not worth the decreased comfort and increased price for the MK2. Maybe I am not "audiophile" enough to hear a big difference or I had not enough time to test the Monarchs. Another thing is how easy the Odyssey can be driven. Connected to the 3.5 Audiojack of a Macbook 16% of audio volume is a sweet spot. You basically have no volume problems on any source. Connected to a Qudelix 5K DAC/AMP they sound the same. Using a DSP/EQ to normalise the sound to JM-1 - I like the native sound signature more than the original new meta (JM-1) - it just adds some excitement without being too much. It can be still considered as neutral with bass boost. One drawback is how sensitive they seem to be. Connected to a "poor DAC" (e.g. Playstation Portal 3.5 Audiojack or DualSense Controller 3.5 Audiojack), there is a noticeable background hiss and noise floor when a sound is played. This is not so noticeable when gaming, but I would definitely not advise the Odyssey if this is a use-case for you. Compared to that, the Variations do sound absolutely clean connected to the DualSense or PS Portal. In it's price range, I would easily give the Odyssey a 10/10 Score with the Label "Endgame for most". If price doesn't matter, maybe a 8/10.

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redditor • about 11 months ago

No offense taken! And in fact I actually do agree they sound mid af even to me at low volume and everything about it scales higher/better as the volume goes up. It IS a high volume set after all and that's where it shines the most. Can't say much about the Fermat but the Tea Pro cost around 60% from where I'm at so I feel like it's not a fair comparison (Honestly I would've went with the Tea Pro if I had more money here tbh xD).

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redditor • about 10 months ago

IEMs have much more space for the driver(s). That's the main reason why they "sound better". At a certain price point they include one dynamic driver which acts as subwoofer and balanced amateurs which do the rest and at a higher price point they add electrostatic drivers or micro planar drivers which act as tweeters. I believe this is the main difference. In TWS the space is booked by a battery, a microchip and some sensors and the actual driver unit is very small. But to be fair, one dynamic driver can do wonders. I have the AirPods Pro 2 and they sound phenomenal for what they are. They definitely sound better than some budget IEMs below 50 bucks. But my Ziigaat Odyssey (220$) absolutely blow them out of the water in terms of resolution and depths.

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redditor • about 10 months ago

Ya there is amazing stuff in the 200 to 300 dollar space, really, like the latest run of Ziigaat stuff, Odyssee comes to mind.. And Doscinco.. There is also the Dunu Davinci.. Juzear 61t..we are having our little brains blown out the ear holes at this point. Going up further in price, the tuning seems to get very specific and unique. You really need to know very well what you want. I think most people could stop at something like Odyssee

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redditor • about 4 months ago

I currently own the Odyssey 2 and I think it sounds amazing. Would love to try the Horizons!

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redditor • about 10 months ago

Ziigaat Odyssey, just plain awesome set, tastefully tuned. This is after I acquired the HBB Punch, my endgame but after the arrival of the Odyssey I haven't been able to take them out of my ears. I agree with Jays Audio in that they take you on an immersive eargasmic journey.

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redditor • about 8 months ago

There were 3 IEMs for me. Ziigaat Odyssey for the tuning, I just love it and it fits my preference. Xenns Mangird Top (not the PRO as I've not heard it myself yet) but even then it was my benchmark for anything sub 600. Lastly my current most expensive and a personal "endgame" set the Thieaudio Prestige LTD, it might loose out on certain aspects if compared to other similar priced IEMs but personally to me it's just the smoothest and most lush sounding IEM I've ever put in my ear.

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redditor • about 5 months ago

Odyssey my pick too, fun,capable,impressive,fun again.

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redditor • about 4 months ago

Haha, I mean I would say 700$ is pretty much "on the higher end" for the majority of people. Which is why as the other person mentioned, companies need to push each other, 5 drivers for 700$ is too much. When it comes to 500$+ driver count and namely branded driver count is one of the bigger determining factors, no one said it's the single biggest. The RSV mk2 is a 4 way crossover (crossovers also matter) but more times than not, the quantity of branded drivers kinda impacts the technical abilities, you can't replace pure displacement. I would say the mega5 with the sonion ESTs (well know brand), should more times than not, be better at separation and imaging.

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redditor • about 7 months ago

I've listened to all except KE4, and base on what i thought: 1. If you like bass than the others: Aful Explorer with "L-shape sound signature" (on small volume). If you crank up volume to medium-high, sounds will much better but still focus on bass, especially subbass. 2. Harman enjoyer: Truthear Nova/Supermix 4 with "Harman/U-shape sound signature". SM4 will have more subbass than midbass, but doesn't bleeding to mid. Uppermid/female vocal sounds really good. Treble also, and feel it somehow better than Nova. If you like the "rumble" in your ears, you'll prefer SM4 than Nova, although both of them are Harman sound signature. 3. Less bass, vocal more sparkle than Harman: KE4 with "Meta/JM-1". Although I said I haven't listened KE4, but I experienced some higher "kinda" have same sound signature, like Softears Volume S/Thieaudio Hype 4. Sounds nearly perfect to me, not too much or too less bass, but vocal really shines overall. Treble reached enough height to not become too harsh like the name "meta". 4. Least bass of all with higher treble is S12 Pro. Cuz of Planar driver, the bass isn't really have much quantity, but it has good control, hit really tight, and decay very fast, which is not good for basshead. Treble is what it did best, it perfectly fit if you like listen to some genres with treble focus like orchestra or sth related. But if you like, you listen to many different genres, I recommend you choose Ziigaat Odyssey. Unboxing experience/packaging is very bad cuz they spent all money to the iems itself. Thats why it sounds good. If this will be your first iems then I recommend you should buy few cheap iems first to find out your liking. Tangzu Wan'er 2 for Vocal, Kinera Celest Wyvern Abyss/Wyvern Black Remaster (will release soon) for Bass, and Moondrop Lan for Treble. From what I learnt, the number of drivers is not the factor decides that iems is good or not. Look at the KZ, dumped in a hell lot of drivers, and it still sounds like dogshit to me. Compare to Aful Magicone, which uses only one BA driver, but it can make none of the bullshit KZ with the same, even higher price range can mess up with Magicone. Or higher we have Softears Twilight which is my future target, have only one Dynamic Driver at price 800$, but it still have a lot of respect from many audiophiles. Even higher? Sennheiser IE900, 1500$, still 1 Dynamic also.

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