TRUTHEAR - TRUTHEAR x Crinacle ZERO

Truthear zero all the way bro. Absolute value for money, only costs $47 from amazon. It has good positional audio for gaming and really crisp. FWIW, my mate and I recently did an analysis on Reddit data for IEMs. Basically ranked them by aggregated sentiment. Maybe you'll find it helpful (google RecSift) You can filter by use cases, price ranges, and get a breakdown of what ppl have said about the most often recommended ones (disclaimer some links are affiliate they help fund the analyses)

With Mic? Can you explain the mic connected to the earbud combo or standalone IEM's? Standalone IEMs, my vote is Truth Ear.

Месье! Посоветуй Не могу подобрать уши к shanling m1 plus. Слушаю в основном металы и электронку. Сразу кажется с непривычки, что вообще нет баса Castor pro с тублерами 1100 - уже почти к ним привык, но чего то не хватает. V образные TRN white tiger - середина и вокал сильно лезут вперед, отодвигая остальное на задний план. че-то не идут Truthear Crinacle zero - слабо звучат, но дефолтный кабель паршивый, норм кабель еще едет Вот теперь на форуме вместо вышеперечисленных рекомендуют эти KZ ZVX PRO, мол на голову выше звучат, хотя везде пишут, что баса маловато Как бы ты сравнил эти уши с вышеперечисленными? Спасибо!

Personally I like the Trio and the Vader Balanced over any of the Truthear Zeros. You can get the Trio or Vader Balanced for under $30, and with a good cable from KBEar, you will still be under the price of the Zeros, and have better overall tonality, without the oddball shortcomings of the Zeros. I still feel, personally, that the Zero Blue is better than the Blue2. But I am in a minority for this opinion.

Personally I like the Trio and the Vader Balanced over any of the Truthear Zeros. You can get the Trio or Vader Balanced for under $30, and with a good cable from KBEar, you will still be under the price of the Zeros, and have better overall tonality, without the oddball shortcomings of the Zeros. I still feel, personally, that the Zero Blue is better than the Blue2. But I am in a minority for this opinion.

Something that dramatically augments the sound isn't a big deal? Ok Chief. I own all three of the Zeros. The OG Blue I gave to a friend. My Zero Red delaminated, and was trashed (still use the impedance adapter for testing), and the Zero2 I returned, because that 12k peak was absolute garbage. If they ever release a Zero:RED2 that corrects the Zero2 treble spike, and is closer to JM1 in a properly budget set, I will get it too. Just because YOU don't have a problem on a laptop (which typically has a weaker headphone putout, or if it is a Mac, they are low impedance by design), almost every PC motherboard is high impedance. It basic electronics and electrical engineering science. Can't change physics. And it's something that everyone should be aware of, so if they encounter it, they know.

There are hundreds of measurements of the Zero out there with impedance adapters. And plenty of other multi driver IEM's that show that increased impedance in the output dramatically effects the tonality of the IEM. Its literal electrical engineering, and your arguing with it. Do you think the earth is flat too? https://audioamigo.squig.link/?share=Truthear_Zero,Truthear_Zero_15_Ohm,Truthear_Zero_Blue_2,Truthear_Zero_Blue_2_15_Ohm,Truthear_Zero_Red,Truthear_Zero_Red_Ruyi_Rod Normalize that at 1k to make it make more sense. And thats from a paltry 15ohm increase. Its not uncomon to see double that on some PC sound outputs. And quantifying anecdotally that you used a shitty PC soundcard, doesnt mean anything. The majority of moden PC motherboards, especially nicer ones, have Headphone amps specifically designed for higher impedance headphones. Like 300ohm Bereydynamics and Sennheisers. It is a very well known, very well documented, and very understand electrical crossover issue. Why you are sitting here denying science is unbelievable. When there are measurements, and countless questions about it, and multiple threads telling people on PC to buy dongles to prevent it from happening.

The Zero Blue is is no way "neitral", it is a very U shaped IEM. Meaning the upper mids and sub bass are boosted. The idea was to have a more "speaker like" experience with the way the upper mids were tuned, and how the sub bass is more tuned like a subwoofer with a lot of lower gain before 200hrz. Its using a neutral sound curve known as JM1 for the mid-range presentation, but the treble and sub bass are crabked up to add wow factor. The Zero: RED is closer to neutral, and the Zero Blue 2 has more of an OG Zero Blue feel to the bass and treble tuning, but matching the timbre and tone of the RED with more bass.

ye tuning mismatch between the iem and your preferences. was it the original zero blue or the zero reds. zero are also known for their pretty bad fit for a good amount of people with really chunky nozzles. if the blues weren't bassy enough for you you're probably a basshead and would enjoy something like 7hz legato

firstly OP's issue is that its a tuning mismatch. man prefers absolute bass cannon set and zero blues don't deliver that, very simple anyways if thats the case everyone who's plugging their hybrids straight into their pc would be **screwed** which I don't believe 100% plays out that way. ew300, em6l, zero reds without adapter, are some common sets people just plug and play gaming on pc but also listen to for music I just happen to filter those ones because their common use on PC. gaming performance would also be screwed if their intended sound signature was completely 'destroyed' and i believe you would see a landslide of complaints supermix i've seen are particularily sensitive which I'll agree with tuning changes that i've seen so I don't completely disagree. but for *every single* hybrid and multi driver to be **destroyed** in tuning thats just very hyperbolic Either way thats my humble read on the matter. I stand by that blues tuning are *much* less bassy then the sony's presented too so I do believe that to be an issue of tuning mismatch if you're a fan of bass cannons so even if we were to grant the tuning of the blues to be guaranteed screwed, the 'stock' tuning of it would will likely still not be up to OP's preferences

I have the original zero blue and it's too sensitive for my ps5 controller and I get background buzz not sure if the same would happen on the red or blue two

Truthear x crinacle zero blue not the 2 version but the OG

vc conseguiria me recomendar esses fones de assinaturas variadas ? já tive um zsn pro, não curti muito, um edc pro e um edx pro, esses gostei de ambos, mas o que mais curti até hoje foi o zero blue msm, qual devo pegar de diferente ?

not twice as much but i believe that paying that extra price gives you far better experience. using truthear zero after using kiwi ears cadenza feels like a massive upgrade. the sub 20-30 dollar market is just not that good considering if you pay 10-15 extra. you get a far better iem

It seems the Chu 2 is a highly regarded iem here, well if you go outside your comfort zone, I mean see outside the box there are many better budget options to consider, here 7hz Salnotes Zero 2 is a slightly more bassy version of the Chu 2, a good allrounder Blon Z300 is basically a very balanced set with good sub bass and a clean unspicy treble, comes with a decent 4.4mm balanced cable QKZ xHBB is my fav budget basshead, it can produce immersive reverberating sub bass rumble with the right matching eartips (Spinfit CP100 for me), it also has good soundstage and imaging, with clean vocal and treble clarity too The KZ Saga is a rare KZ with a very well balanced neutral tuning, not lacking or boosting any part of the frequencies, with the right matching eartips it can qualify as an budget audiophile quality basshead, especially the bass version CCA Trio can be considered as a small upgrade from the Castor Bass with less overwhelming bass intensity and a more balanced set with a clean un-muddy sub bass focus Truthear Zero (blue) are mostly balanced sounding, with good imaging and soundstage, has good bass punch and texture

I prefer EM6L though in practice for gaming G1 and Vivace do as good. Not a fan of Zero Blue 1/2. Unnecessary boost that causes fatigue compared to Zero Red.

The Zero Blue is is no way "neitral", it is a very U shaped IEM. Meaning the upper mids and sub bass are boosted. The idea was to have a more "speaker like" experience with the way the upper mids were tuned, and how the sub bass is more tuned like a subwoofer with a lot of lower gain before 200hrz. Its using a neutral sound curve known as JM1 for the mid-range presentation, but the treble and sub bass are crabked up to add wow factor. The Zero: RED is closer to neutral, and the Zero Blue 2 has more of an OG Zero Blue feel to the bass and treble tuning, but matching the timbre and tone of the RED with more bass.

Don't get any iem with big nozzles as your first iem. There is a high chance you find it so uncomfortable that you think you just don't like how iems fit in general. I did exactly this mistake with the Truthear crinacle zeros. So i would forget about the hexas for sure. Not sure about the nozzle size of the other ones, do some research!

I'm interested but going to wait for reviews, even though I suspect like most previous Crinacle collabs there will be an intense wall of hype that doesn't necessarily reflect the reality. I have all 4 of the Crinacle Zeroes and don't really listen to any of them as they are all just "OK", but in each case I have at least one other IEM that I prefer in some way. The main thing that interests me about these though is that the Blue/Red are both very close to something I'd listen to a lot, were it not for the massive nozzle. My thoughts on them all: * 7Hz Zero - for this tuning I prefer the original Chu, other than the crappy fixed cable. Chu sounds more resolving. Both have issues with some treble grain so I don't think either is objectively better than the other in that respect. * 7Hz Zero 2 - sounds a bit blunted to me, for this kind of warm tuning it feels a bit too "safe" and I find the QKZ HBB beats it in every way other than looks. * Truthear Zero (OG Blue) - Was innovative in some ways but it's actually only about 70% target-compliant not "full Harman". The HBB Khan is basically the same IEM made slightly better (jftr, it literally *is* the same IEM, from the same factory, with a different faceplate and tweaked tuning - I believe even the drivers are identical). * Truthear Zero Red - This one stands out in that there still isn't anything with quite the same tuning around the same price, but I find it pretty meh in terms of technicalities. It causes far too much ear canal discomfort without a sufficient payoff to be worth it, so I basically gave up on trying to listen to it. I have enough other IEMs at similar price of just above that are better such as the Artti T10, Kefine Delci and Dunu Titan S - in fairness to the Red, none of these were available at the same price point when it released and none of them has quite the same tuning. Closest thing to a direct upgrade I have is the Juzear 41t, which is nearly 3x the price and has [venting problems](https://old.reddit.com/r/iems/comments/1insj4z/some_thoughts_on_the_juzear_clear_and_myer_audio/). From what I've seen of the Blue 2 graphs, it sits somewhere between the OG Blue and the Red. The tweaked eargain is similar to the Khan, but it takes bass in the opposite direction, which looks more like the Red. It's also been said by some people that the Aoshida E20 is "the Khan with a smaller nozzle" Although personally I don't hear anything like that. It's a lot more neutral, so that's another comparison I'd like to see as it may be quite similar. In fact out of these, the E20 graph is the one that looks the most like the Blue 2. Now that Crinacle has his own IEM brand, I wonder if these will be the last ever Crinacle collab? What's interesting is that despite all the effort to make the nozzle smaller on these and Crinacle himself clearly acknowledging that it was a problem, people who have tried the 3 new CrinEar IEMs say that they all have huge nozzles.

Stop making it a big deal lol. You likely don't even own a set of Zero. I used mine on both laptop output and my dongle DAC, both sounds basically identical. OP was just used to a basshead tuning and the Zero is far more neutral

kiwi ears cadenza are the best among the above. i would say just slightly lift your budget and get the truthear zero blue 1. in they are only (500 INR) difference. for where i live atleast.

yess, its the right link, but tbh i don't like playing games with them.

Ive got truthear zero blues, and theyre great once you get used to them. They cost about $40 when i got them

I ordered them yesterday and received them a few hours ago, they are incredible! Thanks so much for your support. I'm blown away by the sound quality, i can hear things i never noticed before.

For me they hurt after 1 min, so I couldn't wear them and send them back.

The original blues and the Reds come with silicone eartips and the blue2s are the ones that come with 3 or 4 pairs of foam tips, they do come with silicones, but they sound different with them. Imo silicone tips are more comfortable and more convenient as with foam, you need to smush it down, then it expands in your ear. The original blues and reds have a big nozzle, so if you have a small ear canal, it may be a problem. In terms of sound, the different colours do sound pretty different, but it's not like the song is going to sound like a brand new song. the original blues and blue2s both follow the Harmon 2019 IE target, so extra bass and treble, however the blue2s with the silicone tips have a lot of treble which most people would consider way too much. The foams calm it down a lot. reds have extra bass and a neutral amount of treble. I think if you don't have much or any idea about what type of sound signature you like, this one is probably a safest bet (in terms of sound, out of the 3) My PERSONAL preference would be the blue2s but I didn't like the foams so I stuck with the original blues.

Bass is good for music and immersion, but for competitive advantage in shooters less bass is better.

That's fair. Zero's nozzle is indeed pretty big

Same question, I personally use the OG Zero blues because lots of people, including that one IEM gamer reviewer youtuber, ranked it as like the #1 gaming IEM that fits a lower budget. One issue only for me is that its the nozzle is so thick, and I had to change my eartips to use the Spinfit W1s, and even that was a super tight fit (I even ended up tearing a bit of the tube that goes over the nozzle due to over-exertion I guess) But after switching to the Spinfits I noticed immediate comfort and I can wear it for longer hours. Now Im also wondering if it's worth upgrading to, especially given the smaller and shorter nozzle.

people sleep on iems. try the crinaclexlinsoul zero. $25 and I legitimately get good translation

Crinacle Zero Blue. Cheap and very good.

no? the bass is definitely better on the truthear zero blue og, imo it is better

No, I just switched back to overears.

I have the original zero blue and it's too sensitive for my ps5 controller and I get background buzz not sure if the same would happen on the red or blue two

TRUTHEAR X CRINACLE ZERO BLUE/BLUE 2 depending on your budget. the subwoofer crossover is just amazing

I think the surround sound isn't good enough. I mainly play Valorant, where you need to hear exactly where footsteps are and so on. It just doesn't sound right.

I second this. I had the original Blues and got the Blue2's for the smaller canal. It was my only complaint about them.

The biggest problem with these is that the nozzles are absolutely massive. One of the most over-recommended IEMs (along with the Red) given that most people will find them somewhat uncomfortable and potential painful in many cases. The tuning and technicalities are just OK in the current market. Send them back and get something else. The question then is what to get. You're used to a very bassy signature so you could go for something similar. The QKZ HBB is really good and has a warm/bassy signature, so that might be a bit closer to what you're used to and should be an upgrade in terms of sound quality (they're one of my favourite IEMs at any price and they're only $15). Or you can go with a different tuning, but bear in mind that you'll want to give it maybe a week of not listening to anything else to let your brain adjust. If you want something more "clean" sounding but still with a decent amount of bass (won't be as much as the Sonys) then maybe try the Kefine Klean, or if you want to spend more there's the Aful Explorer (although I personally find vocals don't sound great on that one, despite everything else about it being really good). I wouldn't spend time trying to adjust to the Zeroes though, because they'll just continue to hurt your ears and could potentially cause an ear infection. Don't try to struggle through if they are hurting your ear canals. I've done that and it takes weeks of not listening to IEMs at all to recover from the ear canal damage.

NOT the truthear zero blues. Awful pair of IEM's with my experience. The wall hack experience is not there. I 100% suggest the EW300's or some other suggestion

Ive had all the Truthear Zero Blue, Blue2 and Reds and imo they all were all great, from my experience, gaming with all of them were great. I wouldn't say one is better than another as the difference between them all for things like trying to hear footsteps is negligible. I have since sold the Blue2 and Reds, but I do still have the original Truthear Blues and the Simgot Supermix 4, along with some Sennheiser HD560s which are openback headphones and I still use IEMs for gaming more as I prefer the isolation and comfort (for very long sessions). I have tried a good amount of tips to find which ones I find the most comfortable tho.

I quite enjoy the r4 with my truth ear zero reds. Moon drop crinnacle dusk if you're willing to splurge a bit. I've also heard good things about the new zero blue 2.

The original Truthear Blue Zero and hell no. Was the most boring, sterile, and uncomfortable IEM I've ever used.

the truthear zero is a better choice .

In my expereince, the truthear zero blues, even with a seal (that is pretty hard to achieve in some people's cases like mine) don't do gaming all that well. First the gunshots are shouty so they cover up sound queues, the bass is alright and boosts the right frequencies for footsteps in-game that are deeper but the imaging, soundstage and vertical imaging was quite poor. If you are willing to gamble with the fit, they are a pretty OK pair of IEM's but they are starting to show their age 100%. For music they are quite lifeless so there's that. You could wait for the Truthear Zero Blue 2 which has a smaller nozzle with nicer bass but still similar "clean" sounding tuning. Maybe they'll fix the technicalities with this upcoming second version. I'd much rather pick the EW300's, the Kefine Delci (for a similar price)

It's really about tuning preferences. The daybreak is not a 'direct' upgrade from the zero but it has different tuning. I recommend looking into the odyssey 1 and maybe the quintet as well. I have a review out for the zeros, they're very very bassy, with a meta tuned set you will notice the upgrade. The main difference between the meta tuned sets will also come in detail, built quality, and soundstage. Look through and compare the frequency response graphs as well to compare sound if that's easier