Epson - Home Cinema 3800

Epson 2040 and 3800 and no noticeable lag. 110" screen with 7.1 speaker set up. RDR2 in particular was absolutely mind blowing. Hearing things all around and really feeling like you're in the game... incredible

I have an epson 3800 on a 110" screen. Not a huge gamer but I have put in a few hundred hours on red dead 2 and it's awesome. Very immersive and no lag

Epson 2040 and 3800 and no noticeable lag. 110" screen with 7.1 speaker set up. RDR2 in particular was absolutely mind blowing. Hearing things all around and really feeling like you're in the game... incredible

Personally, Epson 3800. I just bought mine used off of eBay, no bulb, no remote, 500$. Bought a bulb and remote for 125$ all together and it's been absolutely incredible for what is just about the same size and throw distance your looking at currently. I have about a 16-14 foot throw distance 120" screen with it not yet mounted and it's decent even with the multiple windows worth of light coming in, and at night it is stunning. Note that this is not only during the day, but the morning, and there are 2 more windows behind this image that add additional room light.

No projector works outside during the day, and dusk is even questionable. But, the Epson 3800 is the model without any RBE that I would get. It will work great indoors as well which is a big plus. Pair it with a Amazon Fire TV Stick and a Bluetooth speaker and it'll be a nice outdoor setup.

I think the Epson is a better model overall with better contrast and much more placement flexibility. The BenQ has faster pixel response time for gaming, and a solid state light engine which is a big plus at this time. If you have access to replacement lamps in the future, then the Epson is an easy favorite in my opinion.

If this is a permanent installation, look at home theater projectors, or lifestyle models designed to be easily ceiling mounted. A proper 5.1 audio installation with an AV receiver is a must, especially in a dedicated space with a home you actually own. Run wiring in the walls before you paint, and you will have a life long proper surround system. Avoid equipment at the front of the room if possible. Run HDMI to the projector and make it so you can swap out that HDMI cable. Wireless/screen mirroring is generally quite a lousy way to do anything. Use a wired device like an Apple TV or a Chromecast. If you're just streaming, consider a Roku or similar. The lifestyle models, as seen in the video, and as recommended with the X1 are decent solutions for sure, but are trickier to ceiling mount if they don't have a 3-point or 4-point mounting structure as is common with traditional projectors. Plus, they rarely have zoom and lens shift is almost unheard of. These are more common features on traditional projectors. But, the Hisense C2 Pro is a model with good zoom but terrible mounting. The Nexigo Trivision Ultra is well reviewed and has 4-point mounting which is nice for a ceiling setup. No zoom, no lens shift, so positioning must be very accurate for best results, as is common. Super easy to setup are models like the Epson 3800, but they are lamp-based and pretty much past their prime. A shame we haven't seen a laser version of those models yet. The BenQ X500i or X3100i are considerations as is the TK710 (or TK710STi) which are decent traditional models. High end starts around $5000 with Epson, Sony, and JVC models, all worthy in a good theater. Not sure what you're really hoping to spend here. A fixed frame screen from Silver Ticket is a excellent way to go.

Epson and BenQ are proven to be reliable and have good service centers and honor their warranties. Valerion is too new to know how well they will respond and how reliable they are. But, that isn't a bad thing. Just a question mark at this point. Other companies are out there like Acer and Viewsonic as well. Some have traditional lamps, like on the Epson 3800/TW-7100 which are easy to replace, but must be replaced every few thousand hours of use. Laser and LED lamp sources are not user replaceable, but last for 20,000+ hours (rated) which is typically many, many years. Daytime viewing is a physics problem. A 500 lumen projector will not fare as well as a 3,000 lumen projector, but true daylight coming into a room will wash them both out and leave you a mess of an image. That's the physics of it all. After dark, it's a non issue and a 500-1000 lumen projector can look quite good on a 110" diagonal screen. But, screen size, throw distance, lens offset, mounting position will all matter. Oh, and you will need to handle audio separately.

The biggest issue with the TW7100/3800 model is that it is still lamp based. Otherwise, this is a really well reviewed home theater projector with a lot of zoom range and good lens shift. In low power mode it is nearly silent and will have tons of light output for such a small screen size. The screen size is tiny and you really should be getting a TV. I would be remiss if I didn't just say that this is, by far, the better option at that size. Still, the projector is a really solid choice. Not sure if the 2350 is available to you, but that model would also work from that distance, but it is a downgrade to the 3800 in most regards.

I just bought a 3800 am I supposed to return that for one of these? What makes these so much better in a fixed position?

Too many units have this corner fuzzy errors on Epson 3800. Thats why was a no no for me and buyed the Hisense c2 that I fell on love since the first time I turn on and watched the Witcher 4 trailer on it.

So I’m in your exact situation. Have a 2150 that is on its last leg. I have been in search for a replacement for around 2 years and just have not found anything worth the money. I tried the 3800 and it was bright but it honestly felt less sharp than my 2150 so I returned it in hopes of the 5050 dropping its price down to 2200 again but it just keeps getting more expensive and I just can’t justify it. Fast forward to recently and I gave up on the 5050. I bought the epson lifestudio grand and ust. I just couldn’t make a ust work with my setup but I did really like the brightness and sharpness. Then I bought the XGIMI Horizon 20 pro to see if I was still bothered by the rainbow effect. The picture was absolutely stunning but I was really bothered by the rbe especially when playing games. The luminous boost which reduces the rbe effect almost worked but still couldn’t do it. If your not susceptible to rbe I would definitely say get a xgimi or valerion. If you setup works with a ust the lifestudio grand goes on sale for around 2k often and would recommend. If you can’t do ust and are rbe sensitive join me in my wait for something to spend my money on 😂

Asking for reddit wisdom to help me replace my current setup with an UST + ALR, any experience appreciated. **Current setup** I have a room that can't be properly light-controlled. There is a big bright window on the left side closed with blackout curtains that is enough to comfortably watch most movies but plenty of light still leaks. Currently, I am using an Epson EH-TW7100 (3k lumens, pixel shift), on a 120 inch piece of white wall. The main problem is ambient light from the window. The second problem is connecting my audio system via eARC to the soundbar having the projector 6m away from the soundbar (proper cabler routing needs 20m in one direction and a lot of suffering). **Potential solution** I've been thinking of buying a Fresnel ALR screen (flipped upside down) and mounting an UST projector **to the ceiling**. Then running the cable to the soundbar beneath the screen. The budget is within \~5k euro (5.8k usd). I do not care about light from the ceiling, I have direct lights, I don't direct them to the screen and I turn them off when it's bright outside. The only real light source is from the window that's ortogonal to the screen and located about 2 meters (6.5 feet) on the left from the screen. **I only consider Epson (3lcd)** because I am extremely sensitive to the rainbow effect. Can't deal with it especially when it's white subtitles on the black background. WRT valerion I've heard that there is laser speckle. I am confident I will not be happy about that too. **The choice #1** **LS800W** for 2230e (2600 USD), it's 4k lumens with pixel shift OR **LS970W** for 3300e (3861 USD), it's 4k lumens AND a **native 4k.** Specs state that the contrast is twice higher but I don't think how to interpret these numbers wrt a projector. **The choice #2** Which Fresnel ALR screen to get? 1. [~~https://www.valerion.com/eu/product/fresnel-ambient-light-rejecting-screen?screen+size=120%27%27&image=0~~](https://www.valerion.com/eu/product/fresnel-ambient-light-rejecting-screen?screen+size=120%27%27&image=0) (this is a long throw screen) 2. [https://nothingprojector.com/products/nothing-projector-120-inch-fresnel-optical-screen-for-ultra-short-throw-projector](https://nothingprojector.com/products/nothing-projector-120-inch-fresnel-optical-screen-for-ultra-short-throw-projector) 3. [https://nothingprojector.com/products/fresnel-optical-screen-for-ust-projectors?variant=41761753202824](https://nothingprojector.com/products/fresnel-optical-screen-for-ust-projectors?variant=41761753202824) (this could be the same as the previous link, the website is confusing) I have heard of Fresnel ALR made specifically for the ceiling mount but I couldn't find those from the reputable sellers. Any non-toxic advice is appreciated.

I don't think people with the 5050UB should be unhappy. But, the LS11000 costs more, and has lower contrast, while XGimi is pushing out models like the Horizon 20, base model, for about $1,600, that is every bit as good or better than what Epson has in their 3200/3800 models, for less/similar money. The high end models that are in the same price range of the 5050UB are squaring up against it nicely. Valerion has been tested against JVC models with solid performance. I think Epson is trying to compete in the high end, instead of doing their best in the middle range where they have excelled for decades. Not just years, but decades they have been such an easy recommendation. We also saw from BenQ that it is not that expensive to switch from a lamp system to a laser system. It just makes no sense to buy a lamp based projector that is over half a decade old in design, considering the competition.

you don’t need to spend crazy money in a room that. i have more natural light coming in than you appear to and my epson 3800 does a great job for daytime NFL games for example. any competently designed modern projection from a legit manufacturer has a sufficient refresh rate for sports broadcasts in my experience. you may be confusing sports and gaming here. serious gamers obsess over refresh rates and don’t have experience with that but for watching sports events it is not a problem. also most people that are concerned about a budget and not obsessing over pixels do not need a true 4k unit. the pseudo 4k units like the 3800 produce a beautiful image that you would struggle to differentiate from true 4k without careful inspection that usually would require you to step very close to the screen. and most sports aren’t in 4k anyway for other reasons. it would be worthwhile finding out what type of screen you have though. if we assume it is of the same vintage as the old projector it is likely to be a traditional screen but it would be good to confirm fabric type and gain level if you could.

Did you test with sdr? Epson 3800 iirc has iris so should get higher contrast. Advantage of laser projector is color coverage for bt2020 and laser dimming without subtitles - so in dark scenes the laser can dim to have even better black floor. If you watch non dark content with subtitles then just keep the epson. Also, contrast ratio is affected by zoom level - try the same throw ratio on the others to match the epson. Maximum throw gives higher contrast, so your valerion at its biggest picture vs smallest picture will have like 40% contrast difference. Smaller picture has better pq, so you need to put the projector further back.

They're both great projectors in their respective classes. The 3800 is 4k, has much better contrast and input lag, lens shift, 3D, and is quieter in Eco (both of these are so bright, you probably won't ever have to leave Eco). It's also a chonker compared to the 1060 at around 15 pounds and physically around twice the size. Re: curtains, I would just bite the bullet and get blackouts. Deconova makes some very affordable ones.