Zowie (BenQ) - EC2-CW

Honestly I would love the deathadder v4 pro but the v3 is basically the same and after trying the zowie ec2 cw I think I'm sticking with zowie for now . Hopefully razer cones out with something more enticing.

the makeshift ring support on the EC2 is amazing haha (miss the divina line sm)

I have a very similar hand size to yours, and I have tried many mice in the past few weeks. I usually play with a relaxed claw grip. If any shop where you live offers a return policy or allows you to try mice in their shop, I would suggest that. Your palm should have decent support, and all of your fingers should be able to rest naturally. I didn't like the Viper V3 Pro because it was too narrow in the middle, and the clicks caused my fingers to go into a V shape. My pinky had no place to rest. The Maya X and Superlight 2 are much more comfortable and universal for symmetrical mice. For ergos, I might recommend the EC2 or Xlite V4 medium, which are very popular shapes. I believe that mice under 122x62x40 will feel weird if you sometimes palm your mice and are used to good palm support. Smaller mice would work, but you need a different grip style with your hand size.

I've used a Zowie EC2 for almost 6 years now and can highly recommend it

I dont have particularly big hands, but for some reason ive prefered larger mouses, and have been having a great time with my Zowie ec2: [https://zowie.benq.com/en-us/mouse/ec2.html](https://zowie.benq.com/en-us/mouse/ec2.html)

The sound of Zowie EC's scroll wheel can drive you crazy, though. It's too loud, too squeaky. Probably one of the worst-sounding scroll wheels I've ever come across.

I loved mine, even customized it perfectly with lizard skin. Sadly I lost it. However I now have a zowie ec2-cw, thing is great. Battery lasts forever

Those who know of it know that it fits the hand so perfectly.

Loving my zowie ec2-cw. Classic ergonomic shape fits the hand so well, makes it great for fps.

I've had a zowie ec c series mouse now for years and it hasn't had any issues

Honestly, not everyone playing at an above average tier or even pro level will have benefits from low weight. Its really a matter of aim styles, grips, body and arm position, etc. I can only find my ideal sens for both flicks and tracking with a bit more weight, without it, one is always a bit off. You just gotta look around, many pros in many games still use mice like the ec2 or even the deathadder. Low weight is not better, its just more suited to the majority (i agree with that). And Im all about diminishing returns , its super fun to maximize potential! But in my case and many others in my gaming circles a bit of weight can give better results no matter if you play slow, super fast, etc. It's really personal "preference". I wish these things were predictable, my wallet would be happier !

I would like to say that ive had my zowie ec2 for ~10 years and am only now thinking of an upgrade. Mice can last a very long time, I wouldnt even change mice but mine double clicks on left mouse and one of the side buttons, and the scroll wheel doesnt work that well anymore

FWIW I see the 502 suggested for people with big hands but I find the actual width of the part of the mouse you grip is not very large. Lots of things to consider, but I've got 20 cm x 11 cm hands and have settled on the DAV3 wired version. I've found the mouse width and desired shape (symmetrical vs ergo) to be the most important factors when looking for a mouse. Other mice I've tried and liked include the ZOWIE EC2 (look into EC1), Razer DAV2 Pro, and Logitech g403/703. Good luck!

No Zowie on the FPS list is kinda crazy to me. Zowie is BenQs mouse brand, it's a no frills very high quality mouse. No software no firmware updates, 4 DPI presets. They are consistently the best FPS mice I've owned. On the flip side, Logi G600 is hands down the best MMO mouse, it actually promotes me to be so lazy with keybinds I find myself using it in games other than MMOs. Protip: the older Logi Gaming Software works way better than the newer LGS for the G600.

I don't think the ec1 is good for your hand side and grip. I'm the same size and like the ec2 better with a claw grip. Ec1 is comfy for full palm but always found it terrible for micro adjustments

I wonder why Zowie switched to unbraided rubber cables with the -DW series mice. The -CW mice actually did have a paracord type cable that was excellent.

For ergo razer deathadder v3 hyperspeed/Pulsar Xlite v4 medium/Pulsar Zywoo medium size/Zowie ec2 or anything around the same size would be great for your hand size and grip style. But if you want an ambidextrous mouse, you cannot go wrong with Logitech G Pro X Superlight 1 or 2 for starters.

Used Zowie EC2 iirc, great mouse very durable. Used Steelseries something, it sucked in terms of durability and quality, wheel became loose rather quickly. Used Logitech G300 or whatever that wireless basic model is, decent mouse. Using G502 wireless now, good mouse. To be honest mouse is not very much important so long as it works decent enough. Not a big fan of many buttons or lighting or macros etc, 2 extra side buttons is enough and a life changer for casual internet browsing imo. I prefer my mouse a bit on the bigger side and don't like superlight mice so G502 is good on that regard.

I wouldnt say that, its just made for palm grip for medium-small hands. I have medium hands, my friend has small, I use this and he uses the ec2-cw, completely fine

Look into the Zowie ec2, classic proven cs mouse

Same hand size and but with relaxed claw grip. Really like the EC2. Ec1 forces me in to a full palm so get that if you want palm

not op but been using ec2 for cs2 and its god tier if you have a claw grip. ive had the mouse for 9 years without fail

Most comfortable? Probably an ergo like an Ec2. But I aim the best with op1 8k

Overpriced and breaks easily in my experience. Also the sensor was very weird depending on which mousepad I was using. Worked alright on my artisan but my xtrfy mousepad would cause it to skip frequently unless I physically pushed the mouse into the pad. I switched to a zowie wireless and prefer it 10x over

Ec1 is larger and forces a palm grip even with pretty large hands. Most people will be much better off with the ec2 and if you use relaxed claw it's much better for micro adjustments while still offering a tonne of stability. I use an ec2 with 20x11cm hands and a relaxed claw

FK2 is super low, I wouldn't recommend it for claw. S2 or U2 would give much more lower / middle palm support. I wasn't convinced by U2 as it locks you in a specific grip and it will be a hit or miss. EC2 would be perfect for palm grip and ok for relaxed claw, but something like a DAV3HS works much better for claw grip, which is because the clicks are lower and the hump is more in the middle of its length.

>In my opinion most ergos feel more or less the same with minor differencies I couldn't disagree more. For example, I can't stand the Dav3 shape, it's super unconfortable, too long, the front flair hits my finger... The classic EC2 shape feels much better, and recently got the x3 which is close to my favorite shape (G403/G703) which feels so much more natural to use than anything else. This is all just for me as this is VERY subjective. As for the Dex I haven't tried it, but except the shape, what is different from the superlight 2? I feel specs wise logitech fell far behind everyone else.

i feel like nobody uses large mice anymore, but rather they just palm smaller mice like gpx and ec2, razer vv3 razer Dav3hyperspeed. Niko the only one using dav3, even spinx switched to zowie ec2 now