Zowie (BenQ) - EC2-A

I wouldnt say that, its just made for palm grip for medium-small hands. I have medium hands, my friend has small, I use this and he uses the ec2-cw, completely fine

Same hand size and but with relaxed claw grip. Really like the EC2. Ec1 forces me in to a full palm so get that if you want palm

Depends EC for ergonomic, fk for claw/fingertip, s/za/u for claw grip

It's not that weird. That's a pincer claw grip with a strange thumb position. I do the same, but with the thumb below the buttons. Zowie EC2, Lamzu thorn, G Pro superlight, Asus Harpe Ace work for me. Might work for you too. Zowie ZA-13, Vaxee Outset AX or NP01-S get recommended for this kind of grip a lot, though I haven't tried them.

I have 19 x 10cm hands and went from a G502 to an EC2a in 2016 and after a week of constant use found it to be a huge improvement. Zowie might be behind in terms of tech and features but they are still the goats of shape. Plenty of other brands do that ergo shape, but none come close to the feel of the EC. While I don't daily drive that EC2a anymore, I always have my EC3 and camade bungee connected for use when other mice need charging or just for nostalgic comfort. The only thing that is a bummer are Zowie's scroll wheels. They feel pretty cheap and nasty compared to every other manufacturer.

Used Zowie EC2 iirc, great mouse very durable. Used Steelseries something, it sucked in terms of durability and quality, wheel became loose rather quickly. Used Logitech G300 or whatever that wireless basic model is, decent mouse. Using G502 wireless now, good mouse. To be honest mouse is not very much important so long as it works decent enough. Not a big fan of many buttons or lighting or macros etc, 2 extra side buttons is enough and a life changer for casual internet browsing imo. I prefer my mouse a bit on the bigger side and don't like superlight mice so G502 is good on that regard.

The wired zowie is better than all these 3. U will de dissapointed if u want it yo be ec2 level. What about Deathadder hyperspeed? that would be way better than all 3 and doesnt cost much more i think

I fell in love with EC2-A when I was at my friend's place back in 2018 and bought it later that year. It's been 7 years and this mouse is still with me, not a single issue

lmfao this is how i grip my mouse for comfort i loved my ec2a used it for like 3 years rn im trying out a Razer Viper v3 pro chinese clone. my mains are gpx and op1 thi

Ec1 is larger and forces a palm grip even with pretty large hands. Most people will be much better off with the ec2 and if you use relaxed claw it's much better for micro adjustments while still offering a tonne of stability. I use an ec2 with 20x11cm hands and a relaxed claw

ERGO: Zowie EC2 is the gold standard for ergo shapes. Almost every popular ergo mouse has cloned this one, check it out if you haven't. AMBI: Zowie FK1/2 and Logitech GPX. Razer cloned the FK1 shape for the older Viper models and the V3 is a GPX inspired shape.

I know right? I thought zowie will surely be mentioned in FPS. Mine is EC2-A and been with me for such a long time.

FK2 is super low, I wouldn't recommend it for claw. S2 or U2 would give much more lower / middle palm support. I wasn't convinced by U2 as it locks you in a specific grip and it will be a hit or miss. EC2 would be perfect for palm grip and ok for relaxed claw, but something like a DAV3HS works much better for claw grip, which is because the clicks are lower and the hump is more in the middle of its length.

I would like to say that ive had my zowie ec2 for ~10 years and am only now thinking of an upgrade. Mice can last a very long time, I wouldnt even change mice but mine double clicks on left mouse and one of the side buttons, and the scroll wheel doesnt work that well anymore

Honestly, not everyone playing at an above average tier or even pro level will have benefits from low weight. Its really a matter of aim styles, grips, body and arm position, etc. I can only find my ideal sens for both flicks and tracking with a bit more weight, without it, one is always a bit off. You just gotta look around, many pros in many games still use mice like the ec2 or even the deathadder. Low weight is not better, its just more suited to the majority (i agree with that). And Im all about diminishing returns , its super fun to maximize potential! But in my case and many others in my gaming circles a bit of weight can give better results no matter if you play slow, super fast, etc. It's really personal "preference". I wish these things were predictable, my wallet would be happier !

For ergo razer deathadder v3 hyperspeed/Pulsar Xlite v4 medium/Pulsar Zywoo medium size/Zowie ec2 or anything around the same size would be great for your hand size and grip style. But if you want an ambidextrous mouse, you cannot go wrong with Logitech G Pro X Superlight 1 or 2 for starters.

Nice review, many thanks! 👍 Since you have big experience with mentioned mice, maybe you can give an advice. Prehistory: I've been using EC2-A long time ago, comfy, quality, ok - ideal mouse at that time for me.When it started to double click i decided to switch to something else and bought G703. It appears to have too big back hump (I was even thinking to sand paper a bit). After several other changes like g pro x potato stone, xlite v2 mini, now I'm at Xlite v3 eS (pretty decent shape, no surprise, it is almost ec2). I wanna changes again and to top up collection, presently I'm on the crossroad with one highway (EC2-DW) and slight alteration (Pulsar Zywoo). How do you think if increased back hump of zywoo will be a problem? Or it is less hump than g703? Again thanks for review and hope for advice.

Ergo: Zowie EC2: my preference is palm and it fits my hand very well for that. I have gained a lot of stability with this mouse (most noticeably in cs) being able to just simply get my crosshair on the target in a more controlled and consistent manner. Symmetrical: GPX/GPX 2: Part of it being it's the first shape I ever used with the old G pro wireless. But it's also, for me, the shape/size that offers the most utility. I can palm or claw if I want to, have always had great target tracking on it, ability to hit nasty flicks, while also feeling stable in slower fps games.

i feel like nobody uses large mice anymore, but rather they just palm smaller mice like gpx and ec2, razer vv3 razer Dav3hyperspeed. Niko the only one using dav3, even spinx switched to zowie ec2 now

Most comfortable? Probably an ergo like an Ec2. But I aim the best with op1 8k

Surprisingly enough ive never taken any special vare of it, just cleaned it once every 6 months or so and packed it somewhat safely when traveling with it

Something ergo from zowie/ deathadder V3 pro / deathadder V3 hyperspeed / Vaxee

Viper v3 pro is my current favorite symmetrical shape, but if you were interested in trying ergos I've been using a pulsar xlite for a while now and it just melts perfectly into my hand. My current favorite ec2 clone

>In my opinion most ergos feel more or less the same with minor differencies I couldn't disagree more. For example, I can't stand the Dav3 shape, it's super unconfortable, too long, the front flair hits my finger... The classic EC2 shape feels much better, and recently got the x3 which is close to my favorite shape (G403/G703) which feels so much more natural to use than anything else. This is all just for me as this is VERY subjective. As for the Dex I haven't tried it, but except the shape, what is different from the superlight 2? I feel specs wise logitech fell far behind everyone else.

Gpx if you're not price sensitive and wanting a safe option that'll let you experiment with different grip styles. Viper v3 is a solid pick too with a better sensor, coating (get white), and weight but has a slightly more restrictive shape and could be on the larger size for your hands. Tons of ergonomic options too if you prefer that - I've tried the ec2 and thought it was super comfy. Though after buying like 9 more mice I still perform the best with the gpx lol. Everything is pretty good nowadays and battery life is great. I recommend playing on 2k polling for the best blend of performance and battery life.

As someone who has had the DAV3 Pro and DEX, tried the NP-01s, Xlite and the EC2... For shape, it's the DEX hands down. Build could be a little better for the price but shape is king/queen. Note: hands are 20.5 x 11cm and I use relaxed claw. I've also heard good things about the E1 but I can't find a 3D scan of it anywhere.

The EC2 is medium-large mouse, roughly the same size as the Superlight. EC3 is a better option if the Superlight is too large.

No Zowie on the FPS list is kinda crazy to me. Zowie is BenQs mouse brand, it's a no frills very high quality mouse. No software no firmware updates, 4 DPI presets. They are consistently the best FPS mice I've owned. On the flip side, Logi G600 is hands down the best MMO mouse, it actually promotes me to be so lazy with keybinds I find myself using it in games other than MMOs. Protip: the older Logi Gaming Software works way better than the newer LGS for the G600.

I got my first Deathadder in 2009. I had two of the original model, one 3.5 and one 4G. In 2015, I bought a Zowie EC that I've been using near daily for the past decade.

I had my zowie ec2-a for around 14 years give or take a few years, 10 atleast, and I only got a new mouse about a month ago. Now after that long time the mouse still looks good, no scratches just a shiny surface due to sweat oher the years etc. It does double click sometimes now, especially the side buttons. But 14 years is a long time and a good investment.

looks like pincer claw try zowie ec mice

I have 22 cm and vxe R1 is really small in my hands, i suggest you the Zowie EC2

Bro, everything is good for palm. I never seen a mouse i cant palm, even the g303 i palmed lol. 0 discomfort, even palm the gwolves mini mice (18/10 hands). My fav shapes were za12 ec2 mx518

I don't think the ec1 is good for your hand side and grip. I'm the same size and like the ec2 better with a claw grip. Ec1 is comfy for full palm but always found it terrible for micro adjustments

he loved the ec2 before it died