Razer - Viper V3 Pro

I'm surprised you've had scrollwheels die on you. I play apex regularly using scroll wheel for jumping and tap strafing with a WL Sword X magnesium for a year and I've yet to experience any issues. I also like the fact that they don't require a program to be downloaded to change mouse settings and is just a web portal. Your experience may differ but I found it way better than my Deathadder V3, Superlight 1 and 2 as well as Razer Viper. It isn't the lightest mouse around, but I have larger hands and it fits well with claw grip for me personally.

Except Deathadder v4 pro and viper v3 pro are one of the best right now.

you've got tiny hands. mine are slightly bigger and I didn't like the superlight, too big to comfortably grip. the V3P and Maya X have a similar shape and size still, if I had to pick from your list, I'd go for the Sora V2. if you'd like a middle-placed hump, there's the hitscan hyperlight, scyrox v6, atk f1 and many others and to answer your other question - unless you need a load of buttons, any mouse you're comfortable with is also good for productivity and daily use

Do not get the razer v3. The scroll wheel is known for bugging. I have one and with jump bound to scroll I randomly start jumping around in game. Allegedly the v4 fixed this issue but I went back to my v2 and love it.

Started with Zebronics cheap ass mouse > Redgear A20 > Logitech G102 > Razer Viper Mini > Viper 8Khz > Viper V2 pro > Viper V3 Pro > Razer Cobra currently.

vv3 pro is one of the top tier mice for competitive gaming for sure. pulsar mice are really good also

Superlight 2 or Razer Viper V3 Pro. Seriously, just get one of these and try it. They're the safest option and what most e-sports professionals use. Think Counterstrike 2 and Valorant. Of course they work great for everything but there's a reason the pros use these. The Razer Basilisk V3 is the most comfortable mouse I've ever used but yeah, it's heavy. 110g heavy. The Razer Viper V3 I just got is about half that.

I have a very similar hand size to yours, and I have tried many mice in the past few weeks. I usually play with a relaxed claw grip. If any shop where you live offers a return policy or allows you to try mice in their shop, I would suggest that. Your palm should have decent support, and all of your fingers should be able to rest naturally. I didn't like the Viper V3 Pro because it was too narrow in the middle, and the clicks caused my fingers to go into a V shape. My pinky had no place to rest. The Maya X and Superlight 2 are much more comfortable and universal for symmetrical mice. For ergos, I might recommend the EC2 or Xlite V4 medium, which are very popular shapes. I believe that mice under 122x62x40 will feel weird if you sometimes palm your mice and are used to good palm support. Smaller mice would work, but you need a different grip style with your hand size.

Currently own both. Based on experience, V3 Pro is better for fps games but the 'playing safe' ergonomics of the Superlight makes it a good all-rounder for me (gaming & work tasks)

Dont think so, i have 19x9 hands and even for me it is quite big

this goes for 99% of video games you cant go wrong with a g502 (or if you prefer razer, one of deathadder viper or basilisk will suit you)

I was skeptical but tried and now love the Lamzu Maya X. Just the right size/shape. Super light. Button press is just right. Also tried the Viper Razer Pro v3 and the top Logitech. Jared the Logitech, Razer Pro V3 was also excellent.

Faker is using the Deathadder V3 pro He had a short stint with the viper v3 pro (which then also got a faker version, or the other way around) But he swapped back the the DAV3

Razer Viper V3 at 8k, Samsung Odyssey G7 2k monitor, Glsswrks Hana pad, and Titan Evo chair so even when I get clapped I can at least lean back when I cry.

I liked my gpro Superlight but I'm a Tarkov main at heart, Poe when I'm not feeling Tarkov. I've since switched to a Razer Viper V3 Pro... I don't like the bulky g502 despite it feeling nice in my hand (I just can't play on it long term)

If you mean the difference in the switches, I just think Omron's are the best out there currently. They are crisp, sound fantastic, very responsive and are just fun to click (as ridiculous as that sounds). It's not that the V3P switches are bad, they just aren't as good. I had heard they are using Raesha switches and if that is true, at least it's a much better implementation than what Pulsar had on their 2024 lineup. Compared to Omron's, the switches in the V3P are just mushier and not as satisfying to click for me.

well if you want the fastest high quality mouse there is the Op1 8k v2 but it's wired. If you want the overall best wireless mouse, tech wise from a well known brand then there is the Razer Viper V3 Pro. With Logitech GPX Superlight 2C being an option for smaller hands. If you want price to performance you pretty much already have a great wireless mouse but there is an upcoming crossover of Vaxee and Pulsar for their Esports series mice. Logitech will release a rapid trigger mouse with haptic feedback, soon which might be hit or miss. Aside from that there are G-Wolves mice which are leading in special shapes and weight reduction. Personally I think the OP1 8k v2 is the peak of price-performance-quality in the current market

Yes and no. If your mouse is complete shit, you'll notice it immediately but if you have a half decent mouse, from that point onwards, upgrades in sensor quality etc are fairly negligible. Shape is more important than anything. Players had monster aim even 20 years ago with mice from that era. Lower weight is nice, higher polling rate is nice etc but none of those are gonna make you a noticeably better player. I've used many high end mice. My current main is a Viper V3 Pro but I've also won tournaments with a cheap ass G102. Difference in performance was honestly not much. Besides, personal preference matters a lot. The GPX is widely regarded as a high end mouse with a safe shape but it's literally unusable for me. The shape and coating make it slip out of my hand way too much.

Of course you can use a gaming mouse for work. I never use productivity mice. Op1 and gpx are super comfy for me, work wise. Viper v3 will be good too.

Razer viper v4 confirmed? I hope they revert moving viper closer to the Deathadder shape again. The viper ultimate felt so good in hand. The viper v3 isn't bad but id rather use a dav3 then. I have both because im irresponsible

Not what you're asking but could you switch to using fingertip grip? Then you could use any size mouse that's simply wide enough for gripping. I used to use a razer Deathadder, thinking it was a lovely size for my hand, but when I changed to a viper pro, I found that the size didn't matter anymore because my grip style changed. Now I prefer fingertip.

Dont think so, i have 19x9 hands and even for me it is quite big

Do not get the razer v3. The scroll wheel is known for bugging. I have one and with jump bound to scroll I randomly start jumping around in game. Allegedly the v4 fixed this issue but I went back to my v2 and love it.

It might not even be the size tbh. The superlight is incredibly weird for me to grip but my main is a similarly sized Viper V3 Pro. I even tried the superlight 2c and had the same issue where it kept slipping out of my hand. Something about the superlights just doesn't work for me.

Started with Zebronics cheap ass mouse > Redgear A20 > Logitech G102 > Razer Viper Mini > Viper 8Khz > Viper V2 pro > Viper V3 Pro > Razer Cobra currently.

Get an all black one, black viper v3, hitscan hyperlight, etc

If you like the g pro shape upgrade to gpx 2, if you want something different go vv3 both are good mice

OP1 is probably good for small hands, way too small for me. XM2 is better for larger hands, but as far as ambi mice of that size go, I prefer the Viper v3 shape over the XM2.

Viper v3 is the best one by far

this mouse is by far the best mouse I have ever owned for gaming Wait nvm I thought this was the viper v3 I own both and think the viper is better for competitive titles

Had countless RMAs with Razer back in the day, but in recent years have actually had nothing but positive experiences. Deathadder V3 Pro is great, if a bit big for me (replaced it with Viper V3 Pro which I still use daily) Even Synapse is bearable now.

Viper V3 Pro. And it would be even better if they used Omron opticals. That's why I still keep the Maya X around but the shape just isn't quite as good as the V3P.

Mouse specs are so good nowadays that the main thing you're shopping for is Shape. I can play with a GPX shape but it isn't comfortable and my aim will suffer as a result. I can play with an EC series shape comfortably but my range of motion is restricted which affects my performance. For me, I've found that the Viper V3 works best. Everyone has a Shape out there for them.

Did you end up picking up the razer viper v3? Or what did you decide on? My hands are similar to yours and I just picked it up. I tried out couple different ones that are more suitable for my hand size and I know the razer is for medium/large hands but I am mostly a relaxed claw/palm grip so I think it works. I like the way it fills my palm and the positioning of the side keys.

i've only ever had the viper v3 pro, great mouse. my aims good. but do you actually think a more tailored mouse would improve aim

If you have v3 pro you really don't need anything else if you like the shape

With your handsize and grip style I think the Razer Viper V3 Pro might actually work for you. If you don't want to spend a lot of money there's a few clones out there that are pretty good. MCHOSE K7 Ultra is a great one but it's a little back heavy because of its Magnetic Charging. The Eweadn S9 is good too but it suffers in a few areas like slow skates, heavier weight at 60+ grams, and it's 2-3% bigger than an actual Viper. ATK X1 Pro/Ultimate variants aren't bad by any means either but they're known to have minor QC issues like mushy clicks. But that's a batch to batch basis so it may have already been fixed since I last checked it out.

Ok, under $100 you have a lot of great options. If you aren't afraid of Chinese clone mice (and you shouldn't be), you can get literally any shape with an amazing sensor and switch implementation. With that said, My recommendation: Endgame gear. OP1 8k v2 is under 100 and is amazing. It is wired which if that's a deal breaker, I'd get the OP1w 4k for $80 on amazon right now XM series for larger hands. Hitscan hyperlight is another can't miss. Pulsar x2 crazy light has gone under $100. I think right now it's 130. M chose mice are excellent knock offs L7 is basically a pulsar x2 K7 is a viper v3 clone If it were me, I would get an op1 or a viper V3 pro for like $130, or a super light 2c for also I think $130, you'd pay a bit of a premium, but if it's a gift for your brother, he may not appreciate how cool the lower cost clone brands are and they just want with all the pros are using, and if you buy it off your Amazon and you have how much more no hassle return policy.

How do you grip your mouse? This massively impacts the "ideal" mouse for you. For me for example I claw grip and for work and gaming the viper v3 pro is a perfect hybrid of comfortability and performance. Also important do you want the mouse to be ergo or symmetrical? What's the budget? :)