MCHOSE - L7 Ultra

MCHOSE products in my experience have been very good, I've yet to have a failure or notice anything that would dampen performance. I actually still have an L7+ on hand that I'm returning only because it's too small for me, quality was great otherwise. I currently have the A7 Pro, K7 Ultra, G3 Pro and the Ace 60 Pro keyboard.

Just throwing this out there since some people get confused, the MCHOSE L7 and L7+ are different shapes entirely and are not simply size variations. The L7 is a Pulsar X2 Crazylight clone and the L7+ is a slightly larger Ninjutso Sora V2 clone.

Attack Shark is hit or miss for me. Sometimes they're good and other times they're really bad. MCHOSE has consistently had good quality, I'd actually recommend getting the L7+ Pro/Ultra. Seems like it would fit your hand better without straining.

MCHOSE L7/K7 Ultra plus. Very good mice for $45-50

Hey friend I live in Brazil too. You can get a VXE R1 Pro, it goes for about 260 reais with taxes. very very good mouse that lasted me a year and a half before I got a new one (it's still working flawlessly, I just got bored of it and decided to try a small mouse, the Attack Shark R6 - it's shape is better than the VXE R1 Pro for my hands, but it depends on your own hand size. build quality is inferior to the VXE though). Another one that I would recommend is the Mchose L7 Pro/Ultra (both versions are good) - it's a little more expensive at 300-320 reais, but a very good mouse because I prefer smaller mice. Another one that is good but more expensive is the VXE Mad R, people say it's a direct upgrade from the VXE R1 Pro. Ultimately, the VXE R1 Pro is my final recomendation for how universally good, well built and cheap it is.

For now I use the Maya X and the MCHOSE L7 ultra +. Both are great but my mind is gravitating toward the G Pro 2 lightspeed or the GPX 2 as I don't want to chase lightweight anymore and just want something that works

18x 10-11cm. I am maining the Mchose L7 ultra plus as I feel it suit my relaxed grip better than my Maya X.

The mchose l7 ultra plus has pretty much the best performance right now and is relatively cheap.

I think i am 18x11cm. I can use the MCHOSE L7 Ultra +, Pulsar TenZ SE, and the XM2W 4k with no issues for reference.

My Mchose L7 ultra arrived few days ago. I'm loving it so far. It's perfect for smaller hands claw grip.

Do you have a source to understand what you mean by "VXE no longer has Omron opticals"? It is my understanding, and also the specification, that the VXE Mad R Major does use Omron Optical switches.

I have it for a few weeks now and it's insane. Got it for 40$ from official aliexpress store, could probably get it even cheaper with some codes but I don't use ali and it's still a very good price.

Performance same but l7 has good optical switches, you choose if it's worth it to pay more to get optical switches and a bit lighter mouse, don't know how good battery life with realtek mcu but expect it to be decent

if you are looking for a regular wireless mouse look at chinese superlight knockoffs tbh. I switched recently to an MCHOSE L7 ultra. Its amazing. [https://www.mchose.store/collections/mice](https://www.mchose.store/collections/mice) It's kindda dumb that a 60€ mouse works as well as a 150€ one lmfao.

Mchose L7 ultra + $65 on Amazon lowkey one of the best mice you can buy

\+1 on the L7 Ultra, insane value.

Its good love my 20 bucks r1 se+ to use sometimes. But for 60 you are better off with a mchose l7 ultra plus

I switched from OP's mouse (looks like basilisk v3) to mchose L7 ultra and it's insane. My handsize is 17x9. On basilisk I couldn't reach the end of buttons even, right now it's perfect and I really feel the weight difference. Insane mouse for 40$.

MChose is a good brand, they make my favourite mouse, the G3. A G305 shape but with a rechargeable battery and a mere 60 grams. Now, since you have been using an ergo mouse, it depends if you want to make a fun drastic change to your mouse shape. In truth, the performance of mice has maxed long ago. These days you can't even tell the difference between a PAW 3311 (released a few years ago) and PAW 3395 sensor without having a graph on the screen telling you which you are using. If you want a specifically gaming oriented mouse, the MChose L7 Ultra is the top tier mouse you'll ever need. Best sensor on the market, good build quality, great performance and long battery life with the 500mAh in it.

Mchose a7 ultra v2 / L7 ultra v2 Ipi float 88 Zaopin z2 / z2 max / z2 mini / zpw(?) Atk x1 Waizowl ogm cloud Waizowl ogm pro v2 (a bit more expensive) Look at the shape and buy any of this

I perform the same or better between my Sony Inzone Mouse and my cheaper Mchose L7 Ultra +

Im a big fan of the Mad R, but I have to admit the L7 Ultra feels higher quality. It might be due to it being the 500 mAh version (I ordered the 250 mAh version, but you cant ever be sure what youll get from AliExpress), which is 45g compared to my Mad Rs 39g, so it just feels more solid, being smaller and heavier, but its definitely well build. I personally barely notice the weight difference while playing btw, imo anything below 50g is light enough. That being said, the clicks feel similarly light, the L7 is a bit more silent on M1 and M2 but the thumb buttons feel a little more hollow compared to the Mad R. Even though i prefer small mice, for my hands (20 cm length) the L7 is slightly to small to claw-grip comfortably, so im probably going back to the Mad R for now which seems to be close to the perfect size for me, but for the price and if you prefer small mice/have smaller hands id probably go for the L7. I've also been considering getting the L7+ aswell, but its honestly a bit to similar to the Mad R in terms of shape to justify it. Another small thing, that might not matter to most is, the stock skates on the L7 felt a lot worse than on the Mad R, I immediately swapped them out for Tiger Ice V2 dots. Plus point for the little cut outs next to the skates, which made them extremly easy to remove. At least with the dots I had to put the LOD to 2mm, otherwise the sensor would cut out sometimes, this doesnt bother me at all, but might be an issue for some, idk. This also might not happen on the stock skates, not sure. All in all the L7 is incredible for the price, ive only played a little of kovaaks and overwatch yesterday, but im pretty certain I play just aswell, if not better on it compared to the Mad R but ive noticed my hand getting tired much quicker due to the smaller size. Like I've said, for the price (the L7 being about 10-15$ dollars cheaper were I am) I'd definitely recommend it over the Mad R, just get the Plus version if you think the normal one might be to small. I still think the Mad R is awesome aswell though and the weight difference, especially compared to the L7 Ultra+, might still make it the prefered choice for a lot of people, with everything else being so similar.

If you need to butterfly click my personal favorite mouse a Scyrox V8 (although all the mice I'm about to recommend can double click). If you want to save some money, get an mchose l7 ultra. (You need to TURN OFF game safe mode in the software to double click on this mouse, which is one by default). If you need something bigger, get an atk x1 ultimate. All the mice listed have an adjustable debounce time btw, which is set to 0 by default.

I recommend the Mchose L7 Ultra, around 70$. Or also the VXE MAD R Major. Both are superlight mouse, great sensor (PAW 3950), really light (36-39g), up to 8k polling rate (even tough you only really need 1KHz...), (Omron optical switches etc.). no need to buy fancy Logitech / razer or other expensive brand when nowadays pro gaming mice are so much more affordable and super high quality.

L7 shape is so good that when I used GPX 2 again it felt too tall and too big

This is my second day with the Mchose L7 Ultra+. I can only say that compared to the Endgear XM1, I find it much better in terms of both weight and web management.

My L7 (non +) is arriving today, I've been maining the mad r for a couple of months now, its fucking amazing. I will let you know how the L7 holds up, as soon as ive had time trying it.

This is my video review of the MCHOSE L7 Pro and Ultra. For those not interested in watching the video form, here is a text form of my review: **Intro**: The MCHOSE L7 Pro and Ultra are shapes similar to (but slightly smaller than) the Pulsar X2 Mini or X2 Crazylight. They feature Omron Optical switches, 3395 and 3950 sensors, and a 5g weight discrepancy (40g and 45g total, respectively) that I'll get into later. For just $55 and $65 respectively, I decided to give them a shot after being impressed with the quality on the A7 Ultra. **Build**: Full plastic build with no holes, no creaks, and no button wobble. Very impressive, and you can feel the trigger mechanisms having walls to prevent button wobble, so I see no reason that the click stability will deteriorate over time. The coating is impressive as well, providing a sticky rubbery coating that feels as good if not better than my DAv3 Pro Faker Edition and GPX2. The base is plastic and solid. It features the DPI button and the connectivity switch (2.4ghz, off, BT from top to bottom). MCHOSE mice feature BT connectivity if you need it. I'd assume the use case is for students that want to game with and carry one mouse, though that's a little excessive for me. I wonder if it contributes to the weight, however. The skates feature lips which I really hate (similarly on the GPX2, Pulsar mice), however, the lip is shorter here than those mentioned, and it doesn't scratch an Artisan mid or a Steelseries Speed. The weight comes in at exactly 40g and 45g for the Pro and Ultra with dot skates. You will likely be up a gram with full size skates. **Buttons**: The buttons feel great, and I did open both to confirm that they are indeed Omron Opticals due to issues with recent budget mice advertising, but ultimately skimping on, the Omron Optical switches. These are similar to a Maya X, but I get more tactile feedback here. Compared to the GPX2 there is less feedback, but the clicks are much less stiff, which people didn't enjoy on the GPX2. This will be much more comfortable to spam over time, which I appreciate. Side buttons are a bit heavy, but don't have any obvious pre or post travel to make them a pain to use. The only nitpick is that the button shapes themselves are a bit small and overly rounded, but I understand the need to make them small on a small mouse. The scroll wheel is a TTC Gold dustproof, a staple in the modding community and one I've modded in my DAv3 Pro as well. No issues with the durability on this wheel and glad they used it here. The only nitpick is that it may be too loud for some, as the meta for scroll wheels these days is to be light and quiet. I prefer the TTC Gold if it means more durability. The middle click feels great too, I believe it is not a cheaper dot switch that others tend to use. **Skates**: Black dye PTFE is the choice here, which I'm a bit confused by but they aren't the worst skates. I used to rock stock skates all the time, but I prefer dots now. You get passable stock skates here. Fortunately it is a great base to work with for dots/donuts/whatever you may choose. **Software**: I'm really happy to hear that MCHOSE had a beta webdriver in the works. In my A7 review, I used the software. Now that the webdriver is out, it works with the L7 and is backwards compatible with many of MCHOSE's previous offerings (A7, M7, L7, G7, certain G3/A5 variants, and their upcoming K7). Shout out to MCHOSE for bringing this meaningful QOL update to their previous offerings instead of restricting compatibility with their newest releases. The only bad part is that you still have to download firmware updates as files to your PC, but I don't mind. **Extras/Unboxing**: Just a set of decent looking grips that I didn't use come in the box besides the standards (mouse, cable, dongle). I would have prefered an extra set of white/clear PTFE skates considering the stock ones are black dye PTFE. On the plus side, however, they include a dongle that is compatible with high polling rates, which is incredible value for a mouse starting at $55. **In-Hand Performance**: I really enjoy this shape, even with larger hands (~21x11). This gives you that good low button height, with just enough of a back hump to give you stability when you need it. I'm trying to ditch ergo mice that just give you a bunch of stability but much less finger/wrist dexterity, so understand that I enjoy the shape while definitely not in my comfort zone. The low button height helps a ton with finger dexterity in precise tracking motions (recoil control, distant targets, PGT, Snake Track) as opposed to chunkier mice I had been using like the GPX2 and DAv3. The low weight helps a lot with fatigue in reactive motions. The physics of a direction change involve the weight. As such, a low 40g weight takes a lot of strain off of your arm over time (close range strafes, flicks, Ground/Aether). For reference, these were my experiences using this mouse to get masters in the tracking section of Voltaic S5 benchmarks. I feel like there isn't much more to go into here. It's a essentially a cloned shape, and a common shape design language at this point. **Tested Performance**: Go check the [techpowerup review](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/mchose-l7-pro/) by u/pzogel for the raw numbers, but basically, the firmware performs insanely well. The click latency is 0.2ms in wireless mode (approaching the 0.1ms mark set by EGG wired 8k mice) and provides that result in any polling setting, so don't feel like you have to use higher polling rates for that great click latency. As for the sensor performance, cross referencing the [techpowerup OP1 8k review](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/endgame-gear-op1-8k/5.html), the OP1 8k is 1.2ms ahead of the control (G403), whereas the L7 Pro is at 0.9ms ahead of the control (both set to 4k, L7 Pro at wireless). So obviously great performance, but this is only the Pro with the 3395, which gets me to my next point: my confusions with the Ultra. **Pro vs. Ultra?**: I prefer the Pro if you haven't noticed me referencing the 40g weight and the techpowerup review for the Pro throughout the review (although there isn't an Ultra review as of this review). The Pro features the 3395 and a 250mAh battery while the Ultra features the 3950 and a 500mAh battery, causing a weight discrepancy between them of 5g (40g, 45g, respectively). I feel like for true "Ultra" performance, there should be a 3950 variant with the 250mAh battery, weighing in at 40g. Even if you argue that the average consumer doesn't care about the 5g weight reduction, then my counter argument is that they also don't care about having a 3950 vs. the already incredibly performing 3395 present in the Pro. In that case, the casual consumer should be more likely to enjoy a 3395 variant with a 500mAh battery at slightly cheaper than the Ultra's current $65 price tag. This would make way for an Ultra variant with the 3950 and the 250mAh battery. This becomes even more apparent when looking at MCHOSE's full size offerings (A7 and M7). The A7 and M7 don't massively undercut the weight of the GPX2 and Zowie U2, but they could! The Pro/Ultra M7 uses a 500mAh battery for a 58g weight, the standard M7 uses a 300mAh battery for a 53g weight, and the Zowie U2 is listed at 60g. Isn't a hypothetical M7 Ultra with the 3950 and 300mAh battery at 53g a much more enticing full-size clone than what they currently produce? The Lamzu Maya X is gaining popularity among full size users, and that weights 47g. Another counter argument would be battery life, but I have had great battery life on the L7 Pro, switching from 1khz in most games and 4khz for aimtrainers and compatible games. This lasts me about 1-2 weeks, but admittedly, the Ultra didn't give me a low battery indicator in 2 weeks of testing. This gets even more confusing when you consider the upcoming K7 from MCHOSE, which features a 500mAh battery and a charging dock. If you've used a Zowie wireless mouse before, you have absolutely no clue how long the battery lasts because the charging dock is so convenient and it keeps your mouse juiced all the time. Why not use the charging dock to pursue a lighter/smaller battery, considering the 250mAh gives adequate battery life already? **Final Thoughts/TL;DR**: This is the best budget mouse I've tried. The coating is good, the weight is good, the base is good for my dot skates, the Omron Opticals feel great, the wheel is dustproof, and the webdriver covers all the bases. It's insane to think that this is available for $55 and I definitely see it putting pressure on other brands. If you slapped a Lamzu/Scyrox/Pulsar logo on this and charged $100-120, no one would notice. I could see this becoming popular for 3D printed mod kit internals in the future considering the low price, small internals, and insane performance. The best competition for this is probably the Pulsar X2 Crazylight, which gives you the benefit of a 3950 and a lower 35g weight. Unfortunately, I don't think those benefits outweigh the price discrepancy ($120 vs. $55). I concede that I haven't tried that mouse, but I'm not particularly excited to do so considering the price differential, the inconsistency of click feel between Pulsar mice, and Pulsar QC. I'd like to hear from you if you have tried the X2 Crazylight and the L7 Pro.