Segway - Ninebot KickScooter MAX G30P

Segway is being cheap and use low capacity chinese battery cells almost for all their scooters. GT3 battery seems to be different and it has 50% more capacity without increased space. It requires latest high quality cells which obviously cost more money, but shame they don't offer it as option. Something like Ninebot Max could fit almost 2kWh battery internally and it would cost near two grands then, but still very compact. The trend is that compact means low battery and bulky heavy means high battery because it is cheaper that way.

Segway 9 bot no complaints have 10,000kms on it and still running

Damn, that's a beast. I got a used G30P that gives me the range I need, though flashy it is not.

unsure on that front, but I'm about 230lb also and have had zero issues with it other than 1 flat tire in 2yrs. Real world range is around 15-20miles at pretty much max speeds

I have a wheelchair attached to a segway ninebot max g30. Works i get to.20mph. N if im not in it all the time I can get up to 30 miles on it.

Right i had max g30 before than bought g2 - will stay with ninebot - very solid and reliable scooters

9 bot g30 max I use it as a commuter , it's strong and enduring. I'm a heavy guy so it's a slow climber , but that's ok , majority of the time I'm on flat pavement. I use this for situations like fixing my car , when you fix your car you need to leave your car there for serveral hours . I just leave it in my trunk until I arrive , pull it out and ride to the nearest train or bus to get home. Or I just ride home if it's close enough. Another funny use I use it for is when I drive to a party and get really drunk. I will leave my car somewhere parked. Uber it home and the next morning I'll use it to commute to pick up my car to save a few bucks . I have 2 of the 9bots so when I have a guest or I'm riding with someone inexperienced I will ride slowly with them so they get the hang of it. It's great in the summer times to take it to a nearby bike path just to explore the parks and city. Dualton X2 - This is a totally different animal . 100kmph - 80-90kms in range I use this for straight pleasure . I also ride in a group with others whom have big powerful scooters. We ride around the whole city. I don't carry a lock because I don't use this for anything but pleasure . I call this the party scooter. I strapped a speaker to it so we have music when we stop. ( we do this in our own secluded spots ) we have a few beers and continue to the next spot. I don't need to take transit either because it has more than enough range for the entire day of riding. Or 80-90kms of riding which is a lot . The stem I don't bother folding. It comes with 2 deadbolts that secure it permanently. I must say I've ridden many scooters but this stem system is the best stem dualtron has ever made. It's solid , it doesn't move. Can handle any terrain. I keep up with cars in it . It's loud and obnoxious like a Lamborghini. I purposefully do this so I get noticed by cars. I don't ride recklessly though I have 5 years experience and I ride with full gear on. Again it's not for the inexperienced rider. You must know your roads , you must ride with caution. It's like riding a motorcycle basically.

I use a Niu for commuting and trips out to BK/Astoria like the back third of your trip. The Segway would also fit the bill here. 300lb weight capacity is a tough sell - most scooters top out at 265ish. Similarly, the RFK bridge ramp is a pain, since the bike assist infrastructure is minimal and very bike-focused so a scooter's smaller tires and lower-set profile can cause issues going up/down the stairs. [KQI 300x 23mph](https://shop.niu.com/collections/electric-scooter/products/niu-kqi-300x-electric-scooter) [KQI Air X - lighter, stiffer, lower top speed (20mph), but easier to manage the stairs with](https://shop.niu.com/collections/electric-scooter/products/niu-kqi-air-x-lightest-electric-scooter) [You see this recco everywhere, the ninebot max - 19mph max but will have difficulty managing 300lbs + slopes](https://store.segway.com/ninebot-kickscooter-max)

Not really in terms of snow, but I found the ninebot g30p very reliable in the rain

Segway Ninebot Max. Get the G30 or a refurb if you can't afford the highest version. These are excellent commuter scooters. Also look at NIU scooters too. If you can, try to save up a bit more for something in the $800-900 range. You won't be paying for gas, maintenance, insurance, or parking. So it's going to be a massive deal Gotrax is okay.

G30P is a freakin' beast, mine has about 8k miles and still going strong. It won't die

Ninebot Max G3 is IPX6 and it's battery is IPX7 Not the highest but quite good. I also have the G30 and after a full year of daily use in all weather it has zero signs of moisture inside.

Guessing you are in the US? Costco Canada has Navee but not on the costco US site. You are better off buying a better scooter elsewhere then buying the Phantom just because its at costco. It's not a good scooter, I have played around with it at costco it feels cheap like a toy. Was going to say get a Ninebot Max G30 from Amazon but apparently they are not available there at the moment, you could check best buy in your area. I got my G30 from costco in May 2020 they have had them for sale on and off there.

ur not going to have good suspension and speed with that price range, at least not something reliable. just get a ninebot max, the lack of suspension is a non issue if ur not riding on gravel daily

I can tell you right now that the G2 is NOT good for hills. It slows a ton. I wouldn't do the F3 either. ZT3 will work, but portability takes a hit, and upgradability is lost for that discount. G3 is a beast. Very portable and sexy. You can add the extra battery when it's out, or even swap the battery for a GT3 battery and gain 50% more internally. (You can do the GT3 battery swap on the ZT3 as well.)

Agree , but don't expect too much service for a 900$ scooter , I just fix everything myself ie tire change.Anything I can't do myself , we have a few local repair shops that can repair them easily. So far 9bot G30max has been the most reliable no complaint scooter out of all my scooters . They're like the Toyota of scooters , 9 of my friends have them and not one of them have had any issues. Most of the uber eats , skip the dishes guys use 9bots. By the time it breaks down 3-7 year lifespan , you would have made your 900$ back. Just recycle it and buy new, and repeat. No other scooter brand can do this. Inui , Apollo , gotrax , dualtron , vsett , hi boy , in motion , okai , kaboo , all have issues within a year of use. There's NO scooter out there you won't complain about regardless

Used yes. New maybeeeee but not really. You can sometimes find a ninebot max g30p for aound $200-400 used.

Just looked at Amazon, the Segway g30p is $449. Its a tank of a scooter. Built to last, and rarely has issues. Its not a scooter thats built for speed but to get you from point A to point B.

Your list looks solid for campus riding. The Max G30P is dependable but you might find it heavy to carry upstairs. The NIU Air is super light but I have also seen the same mixed reviews about durability. The GoTrax G6 and the Segway E2 Pro are good budget options though they may feel underpowered on hills. When I was shopping for something similar a friend suggested the Circooter Mate. It folds down quickly, is sturdy enough for daily use, and has enough range and power for short commutes with a backpack. It is not the lightest but the balance between portability and ride comfort has been really good for campus life. If you can wait for sales around Black Friday or back to school you might see it drop well within your budget.

i mean a budget woulld help, but if u want one that just works like a tank, ninebot max (only if ur commute is like 3-5 miles tho imo)

been using my segway gp30p max for 3 years. 0 maintenance besides adding air into the tires every 2 months. i commute 3x a week, around 6 miles of riding per day. charge once a week. its durable i literally am not careful with it at all when handling it.

Had mine for 5 years now , no issues , haven't done any maintenance , I don't ride much but my other friend has 10,000kms on it and still going strong . Just replaced both tires that's it.

at what point do you think I'm the OP? My experience and a lot of peoples that for the money, the Segways are some of the most dependable on the market and aren't built for speed. Some people are going to really like that aspect of it. Probably esp a college student on a budget.

Buy a preowner ninebot G30 max or a G30lp max. App controlled so you can adjust speed. Has remote lock and is something he can grow into. Plus its very reliable

If you can bump up the budget the Segway G30LP will be a good one to set him for the next few years. You could also go for the G30 Max to future proof if he needs more distance or climb higher gradients (motor is better and battery is twice the range). Both models are reliable, easy to maintain and replacement parts are readily available, affordable to buy and change yourself. Just ensure they do regular maintenance checks, don't run the battery down below 15-20% where possible, keep psi topped up and have him wear a helmet as minimum safety gear. You can also control speeds via the dedicated app too. FWIW, I recently did an analysis on Reddit data for electric scooters, ranking them by aggregated sentiment. Maybe you'll find it helpful [../../electric-scooter/](../../electric-scooter/) You can filter for what's good for hills and get a breakdown of what ppl have said about the most often recommended ones (disclaimer some links are affiliate they help fund the analyses)

I use segway G30 because it's easier to bring it on the CTA if i need to. No suspension tho and it doesn't go faster than 18 mph (lime and divvy scooter maxes out at around 15 mph, so consider how you'll feel when you fall off your scooter at higher rate of speed - in other words, your pain tolerance level). I have two helmets, ones without shield for my eyes and one with (for windy days, for rain, for bugs, etc).

I have the same G30 and have put over 7000+ miles on mine on NYC streets. With normal maintenance, these things will go the distance and last a long time. The air filled tires will offer some cushioning for those style of brick path but it depends on what you are expecting. I personally would be fine. If you are concerned about vibration/comfort, I highly recommend going for something with suspension like the G2. The price is OK, how is the mileage of the scooter?

With your weight, almost any adult scooter is suitable for you. Given the short travel distance, scooters with small batteries are also suitable. I would consider Ninebot scooters, as they have more reliable electronics, and the mechanical parts are also quite reliable. For example, Ninebot scooters Es series (Es1, Es2, Es4), F series(F25, F35, F45), G30, G2 (used ones can be bought for $ 300, and this would be the best solution for the money), E2. Of all the scooters listed, the Es series has a folding mechanism, which makes it easier to store it leaning against the wall, placing it on the front wheel, and using a wall mount. Other scooters can also be stored in this way, but due to the design features, they will bulge strongly from the wall, and it is not very convenient to put them on 1 wheel. Xiaomi scooters also performed well, such as the m365, m365 pro, etc. Inexpensive kukirin scooters can also be considered, but they often have mechanical problems, and the electrics sometimes fail, although due to their mass production, spare parts for them are cheaper than for other scooters.

Depends on the overall budget though. College students don't necessarily want to sent or have the money to spend on a higher end scooter, esp when there are decent dependable scooters that may not go 50mph with a range of 90 miles. College students are going to have issues of storage and theft as primary concerns. So spending over $1k for something that could easily grt stolen makes zero sense. You're really better of getting something that is cheaper and reliable and speed doesn't have to be king nor does everyone want speed to be king. Add that it has zero to do with masculinity as you're trying to make it put to be. You're not a little girl if you don't want to go 50mph+, you just want a quicker commute and do it safely. Some people have balance issues and the faster you go the more dangerous it becomes. So something like those entry/mid level segways are amazing options because they aren't made for speed but dependability. And no, it doesn't have to be a tradeoff, but often times is.

I bought the F3 and send it back when I realized their range was greatly exaggerated in real life. The F3 gives me a range of about 22 miles on Sport mode, whereas the G30P gives me about 28. Paying premium for less range was a deal breaker for me, where as the lack of torque would be a deal breaker for others.

meh, speed isn't everything. I'd rather have something reliable that I know is going to work every time I turn it on, and it's affected by things like rain. That said, Segways are extremely reliable, g30p is about $600 now, G2Max has been available recently for $799 and it adds suspension and little higher top speed as well as blinkers. The f2pro might hit that $500ish price point too.