Segway - MAX G2 / MAX G2E

I agree. If you can utilize the E & N Trail route, that's the easiest and safest way. I have a Segway Ninebot G30P and for my needs, it's good. That being said, I don't have to do many steep inclines or travel that far (about 2km from house to work), and I live close to Country Club, so I don't have to go far for my basic needs. I see a lot more people riding e-scooters, so it's definitely becoming more popular. I swear I saw some rental e-scooters at one of the city rental things in the north end, so you could maybe go rent one and see how you like it first!

Well, my model is discontinued apparently lol! This looks like it's an upgraded version of mine: https://a.co/d/3au1EC2

I've been riding different scooters for the past 2 years and put together this comparison to help with exactly this question: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DqSqzwP7hnN54EQje7dNvaqePSVWjJLpp3yc4IuTP30/edit?gid=437090420#gid=437090420](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DqSqzwP7hnN54EQje7dNvaqePSVWjJLpp3yc4IuTP30/edit?gid=437090420#gid=437090420) Right now I'd say the Segway Ninebot Max G2 is probably the best overall: 40 mile range, super reliable, and those self-healing tires are a game changer. I upgraded from a G30 and the difference is noticeable. For the money, the NIU KQi3 Max at $600-800 is incredible value with 31 miles range and way more comfortable than most. If portability matters, the Unagi Model One Voyager is only 26.5 lbs but pricey at $1000+. Been daily riding the G2 for 6 months now and zero issues, that's what I'd recommend if you want something that just works.

But what exactly are you asking? What kind of hill? How far to work and back? Is there a specific speed you want to get to going uphill? What grade of hill is it? How long does said hill last? Simple thought, if it's not too much of a hill, a ninebot max g2 might be a good choice. Sale prices these days are around $799. Great range and decently powerful as long as the hills aren't crazy.

Dt2 is a good first scooter. This will prevent you from having to spend another 1000 to 2000 dollars on another scooter to scratch that speed itch. My first scooter was a segway g2 max. I LOVE IT TO DEATH..... but the top speed is 22 mph.... i spent 600 dollars on it, then spent 1750 dollars on my current scooter which is the maxfun 10 pro...... So all in all i spent WELL over 2k on 2 scooters when i could have been like you and just spent ~1k on 1 (btw i lowkey wish I started off with your scooter or the L2 max)

Depends on the overall budget though. College students don't necessarily want to sent or have the money to spend on a higher end scooter, esp when there are decent dependable scooters that may not go 50mph with a range of 90 miles. College students are going to have issues of storage and theft as primary concerns. So spending over $1k for something that could easily grt stolen makes zero sense. You're really better of getting something that is cheaper and reliable and speed doesn't have to be king nor does everyone want speed to be king. Add that it has zero to do with masculinity as you're trying to make it put to be. You're not a little girl if you don't want to go 50mph+, you just want a quicker commute and do it safely. Some people have balance issues and the faster you go the more dangerous it becomes. So something like those entry/mid level segways are amazing options because they aren't made for speed but dependability. And no, it doesn't have to be a tradeoff, but often times is.

i mean a budget woulld help, but if u want one that just works like a tank, ninebot max (only if ur commute is like 3-5 miles tho imo)

I have put over 1200 miles on the max g2, absolutely amazing scooter, just lacking a small amount in area of speed. I recommended the g30lp as it seems a step down from the g2, I have never owned or ridden a g30lp so I was assuming it was good based on the g2. Would definitely recommended g2 because of suspension and I have ridden it in heavy rain with no issue.

Right i had max g30 before than bought g2 - will stay with ninebot - very solid and reliable scooters

Apollo go. 899. Or Segway max g3 maybe even g2. 799-1199. I have had a Segway g2 max for over two years not a problem. Wrecked once thing still runs great. Turn signal button fell off but still work and it has four ways for at night. Never had a go but it's dual motor. Also I way 300 lbs. my Segway has a tough time up steep hills . I zag

Oddly, I like the ride of the G2 better. I think it being slightly lower to the ground plus having the centered fork makes it more nimble. Have 2 G2s and a G3. SHFW on the G2 really narrows the performance gap.

Where are the rankings? What are we supposed to take away from this chart? Are you just listing the number of upvotes to downvotes on posts? I used to have a Segway Max G2 and it's a complete toy compared to the Klima.

at what point do you think I'm the OP? My experience and a lot of peoples that for the money, the Segways are some of the most dependable on the market and aren't built for speed. Some people are going to really like that aspect of it. Probably esp a college student on a budget.

Well...I really love the G3 max from Segway... Use it daily for home work commute, at first I found it a bit heavier, but now I'm used to it. Love the good grip it has. I ride in sport mode at 28mph. I have the G2 Max also.

I've had my ninbot max g2 for over a year now, it does what I need it to do without much fuss

Can find refurbed Max G2s on ebay for around $500. Mine has been great for 1600 miles.

Stay away from the G2! The G2 has some quality issues with the charging port and build quality. The G3 is a beast and it's my new main scooter. ZT3 is good for outdoor, lose terrain and that but lacks the extra battery for example. F3 is okay, but only the charging input where the battery would go is trash in my eyes. So either ZT3 or G3. Both are great scooters.

Just returned a Segway G2 Max for a Maxshot V1SPRO 10". It's 80% of the G2 for less than 1/2 the cost. Suspension nearly as plush as the G2, slower acceleration but still acceptable, and can do light off-roading (mowed grass) like the G2 but at 1/2 the speed. It's also 20+ lbs less. My only disappointment so far is it's not IPX (water resistant) rated.

A used ninebot G2 max, very reliable option

OP can get a Max G2 and be done with it. At least then they have a reliable model with better access to parts. The fender cracked on my G30 after 5+ years use so I bought a replacement from aliexpress for $16... Most of these no name brands you are not going to get parts even a year or 2 down the line.

As a fellow SO , get the Segway Max G2 you wont regret it

meh, speed isn't everything. I'd rather have something reliable that I know is going to work every time I turn it on, and it's affected by things like rain. That said, Segways are extremely reliable, g30p is about $600 now, G2Max has been available recently for $799 and it adds suspension and little higher top speed as well as blinkers. The f2pro might hit that $500ish price point too.

G3 by a long mile. Almost everything is a minor to large upgrade. Especially the display which was impossible to see during daytime on the G2. Handlebars are slightly swept back for better comfort and the engine easily climbs hills where my G2 would slow to a crawl. G3 is also a lot more stable at higher speed due to a more tilted stem. I really liked my G2 but I love my G3.

I can tell you right now that the G2 is NOT good for hills. It slows a ton. I wouldn't do the F3 either. ZT3 will work, but portability takes a hit, and upgradability is lost for that discount. G3 is a beast. Very portable and sexy. You can add the extra battery when it's out, or even swap the battery for a GT3 battery and gain 50% more internally. (You can do the GT3 battery swap on the ZT3 as well.)

I'm a trucker and got the g2max a month ago. Best thing ever. Use it alll the time

Best scooter I have bought in that range was the ninebot max g2 used. It punches way above its weight and price point, very solid build

Dude, you'd be legit insane to go 28 mph on that unpronounceable hunk of crap. Look how thin the top of the stem is. Doesn't look mechanically sound at all. Look at the part that connects the foot bed and the stem: it's not even welded together but held in place with screws. I've logged over 3600 miles on my Segway Ninebot Max G2 and it's a tank that has never failed me. There's a reason why scooter rental companies use Ninebot Max. Spend a bit more and buy a gently used Max G2.

I agree. If you can utilize the E & N Trail route, that's the easiest and safest way. I have a Segway Ninebot G30P and for my needs, it's good. That being said, I don't have to do many steep inclines or travel that far (about 2km from house to work), and I live close to Country Club, so I don't have to go far for my basic needs. I see a lot more people riding e-scooters, so it's definitely becoming more popular. I swear I saw some rental e-scooters at one of the city rental things in the north end, so you could maybe go rent one and see how you like it first!

Based on your needs-4-mile flat commute, 245lb weight capacity, rain resistance, and a $1,000 budget-the NIU KQi 300X and Segway Max G2 stand out. The KQi 300X offers a powerful motor, excellent build quality, and IP55 water resistance, making it a solid choice. The Segway Max G2 is well-known for its durability, long range, and smooth ride, plus it has IPX5 water resistance, which is great for Seattle's rain. Both handle heavier riders well, but the Segway Max G2 has a more minimalist design. If you prioritize power and performance, go with the KQi 300X. If you want reliability and rain resistance, the Segway Max G2 is your best bet.

I recommend the Segway Ninebot Max G2. This thing is built like a tank and never had any issues and I've logged over 3K miles. I even prefer it over my new G3 simply because of the range I can get.

Brand in general, I'd go with Segway and Nami. With Segway being the de facto champ, but I like Nami because of how easily I can order parts from either Ali express, or Facebook. Tech wise Segway got it. I'd give like 4 scooters a 10/10; Nami Klima (burn e is awesome but I think the Klima encompasses what I think the ideal fast scooter should be, without being as enormous as its big brother) Segway GT3 pro. I mean other than maybe a bigger battery, that scooter has all the bells and whistles for the average person Teverun Fighter supreme ultra (not the 7260r). Fat ass battery in a 11 inch scooter. Doesn't get better than that. I'm sure if this model has it, but some have their own security system built in (key fob alarm) not sure if the wheels lock up like with the GT3 pro. Segway max G2 (maybe the G3 but time will tell) that scooter is a tank, nuff said. At the end of the day, the more mechanically inclined you are, the less stuff like ratings matter. As long as it has parts available, and a relatively easy to work with system, you'll be golden.

I'm in the same situation, there is someone selling a almost brand new GO for 450/obo. I have a G2 its not that much fun just get the job done. I'm looking for more entertainment in my e scoot.

Used ninebot g2 max

Segway max g2 even if you get it used or refurbished you won't regret it

Iv got a Segway G2 scooter I bought for 1400 IV used a couple of times it's like new you can have it for about $1000

Well, my model is discontinued apparently lol! This looks like it's an upgraded version of mine: https://a.co/d/3au1EC2

They feel better to me than the drum breaks on my G2. I really don't have an issue with either the way I'm driving.

Scooter. Way more portable. Ninebot g2 max is the way to go for a short 4-8 mile trip

Ninebot Max G2 or G3 bare minimum, but even for that you are going to have to up your budget. You don't want cheap cheap when it comes to scooters. Batteries are expensive, so anything fast and cheap is going to kill you or burn your house down. Most scooters are rebadges of chinese OEM scooters, and can come under multiple names. Buying used is a risk, as you have no idea if it's been crashed or if the battery pack is failing until it's too late.

Yes, G2 are kinda loose but they do their job, just doesn't feel very luxurious. G3 breaks can be calibrated better and have better bite. Drum breaks are very low maintenance while disks having better performance can get ruined by oil or other things splashing on them. One thing I really like is that on G3 you have manual control of both front and back break while on the G2 you only had true front break and engine break on the back portion. Any way, they do the job more than adequately for me.

I've been recently getting acquainted with our handlebar friendly friends the humble e-scooter! Thanks to Ed and Tim for letting me rip around and get the feel for two of the most popular entry level suspension e-scooters on the market. Here are my findings! Segway Ninebot MAX G2 Rider weight: 85kg Range (hilly areas): Top 50% - 13km Bottom 50% - 11km Total range - 24km (would go further on flat areas) Top speed - 36km/h (device) 33km/h (GPS) on flat with a little more to give, likely 40km/h max Average speed - 15km/h Elevation gain (top 50%) - 257m Elevation gain (bottom 50%) - 134m I honestly felt like my wrists were going to fall off. There is definitely a lot of pain in the wrists even after just 5km - taking the front splint out of 187s might help. Coming from electric unicycle obviously I am not used to having my hands do so much work while riding. I have also not made adjustments to the throttle position as this is not my hardware so that could help quite a bit. There's just barely enough power in the MAX G2 to get me up a substantial incline without overheating. That should go without saying considering the low nominal output power. On long inclines the speedometer flash red indicating overheat of battery or motor. I would have to stop frequently on long inclines in order to allow it to cool down. I ran the entire test in sport mode (top mode with acceleration assist unlocked in app) as I am not a lightweight rider. Inclines of 10-15° would result in a top speed of 14-17km/h at full battery, whereas a short incline of 20-25° reduced me to 4-7km/h. At inclines of 30° I was completely stopped even in sport mode. This isn't going to be what I'd consider commuter viable for anyone over 75kg - unless they live in dead flat suburbs. Pedestrians are quite a bit less friendly than with other PEVs. E-scooters definitely have more of a stigma attached to them already, which is sad. Some people are friendly however, not everyone was scowling. I see way more positivity or neutral attitudes from the public on the EUC. Electric skateboards are somewhere in the middle. Segway rate this e-scooter as being able to survive 20,000 km before major failure however every bump I go over and every misaligned paver makes me doubt that very much unless all of those kilometres were done on a perfectly laid road. I could not get the cruise control to work at all. I tried both modes - neither would engage. This could be due to custom firmware that the owner advised me about. If I could have engaged cruise control it would have taken away a lot of the wrist pain due to having to hold the throttle on the whole time. I was able to set the regenerative braking which automatically applies after letting off the throttle. I found the weak setting to be the most intuitive and safest. I found strong to be reasonably easy to get used to however due to the low power of the motor, I would not use the strong regenerative braking setting in hilly areas with heavy rider weight, as the regenerative braking introduces extra strain on the motor. As a heavier rider it might be better to leave regenerative braking off and coast instead, to allow the motor to cool down after long inclines. This is a shame because regenerative braking extends range. I love how the MAX G2 has a 3 amp charger built into the board itself and you only need to carry a clover style direct 240v power cable to charge it. I don't know how much extra weight this adds, however most people would be carrying the charger in their backpack anyway. There is also a DC barrel jack port for external power bricks. I prefer having less weight on my shoulders so this is an excellent design choice. Unfortunately I was unable to get the e-scooter to report that it is on charge/connected to mains power, neither in the app or on the physical screen on the stem. This was while using the inbuilt 3 amp charger and external 240v cable. This is a huge design oversight as every other PEV I've owned or ridden has a charging indicator somewhere on it or some way of letting the user know that the charging has commenced. It blows my mind Segway of all manufacturers would not have this simple indication. I wish the horn was a ringing bell sound not a beep sound. Pedestrians act more predictably when a sound is emitted similar to a bike bell. Sometimes they would not react to the beep at all. I tried riding forward stance and side stance. Both I found to be reasonably comfortable with little foot fatigue. Even the relatively short deck is ample for my height at 6'5 however my back foot was always on the rear guard not on the deck itself. While in side stance I would keep both feet on the flat of the deck. Braking feels more predictable and safe when in forward stance. Cornering feels more predictable and safe when in side stance. Toeside cornering is a piece of cake however heel side cornering is terrifying as a beginner which is strange because I had the complete opposite experience on electric skateboard. I was pleasantly surprised to find that shifting weight off of one foot to provide some respite was relatively easy and did not affect balance. I was able to shake the loose foot to provide some blood flow and rest. Again this may only be because I have experience riding EUC one footed, however having the handlebars must be a contributing factor. The suspension is very good and can handle going up and down 45° curbs without too much issue. I did find myself wanting for more suspension travel however coming from an EUC like the the S22 Pro+ that makes sense. I am now interested to know what the difference is between the hydraulics suspension on this MAX G2 versus the spring suspension on other escooters. Despite the suspension being so capable, every time I went up and down 45° curbs I did worry quite a bit about where the stem folds down. I think it's quite absurd to assume the manufacturers claim of 20,000 km before failure. One gripe I have is the fact that you cannot control the regenerative braking variably like you can on an electric skateboard. Basically if the throttle is off the computer controls how much regenerative braking to apply and your only option is to use the physical drum break to slow down further. As far as off-road goes I only took it on grass and very light gravel for short distances. I wouldn't dare take it anywhere else, as the stock tires do not have the tread for it, nor does the e-scooter have the power for it. I found it to be predictable and reasonably comfortable on grass, whereas gravel I would not corner at any speed over 10km/h. Generally speaking, I was pleased with the results of the MAX G2 considering a modest 36v system, 900w peak power / 450w nominal, and 550wh battery capacity. Very efficient, reasonably comfortable. However, if you weigh more than 75kg and intend to commute regularly in hilly areas, you need 1kw+ nominal motor power in my opinion. Note: the model I tested had a tuned controller, the stock controller would be even more lacking when it comes to climbing hills at a heavy rider weight. InMotion S1 Rider weight: 85kg Range (hilly areas): Top 50% - 22.5km Bottom 50% - estimated same as above or less Total range - 42.5km (would go further on flat areas) Top speed - 30km/h (device) 29km/h (GPS) on flat with nothing more to give (locked by firmware) Average speed - 15km/h Elevation gain (top 50%) - 268m Elevation gain (bottom 50%) - estimate same as above or less With a bigger 54v system and a 500w nominal power motor, the S1 takes off from the line a lot faster and with more urgency than the MAX G2. I expected the range would be a little more too, with 675wh battery capacity. The suspension system is also a little different and perhaps a little firmer than the MAX G2. I definitely feel more fatigue in the hands after short periods. I could not even finish the range test due to discomfort in the hands and wrist, I bowed out at 50%. I have a new appreciation for hands free PEVs! The power of the S1 is certainly excellent for commuting and effortlessly carries me up 10-15° inclines without much reduction in top speed, as I coasted up one such incline both in drive and sport mode with no problem. Eco mode does tend to suffer a little with hill climbing but not much. In drive mode I was able to ascend an incline of 20-25° and my top speed was only reduced to 13-15 km/h. I am definitely enjoying the slight bump up in power, whereas the MAX G2 felt a little too underpowered. Instead of user controlled indicators on the handlebars, the deck lighting indicates left and right depending on the lean angle of the S1. Not too good for letting those behind you know your intentions ahead of time, so I have to say I prefer the MAX G2 indicator system more. I am glad to report that the S1 has a simple physical ring bell on the handlebars which is my preferred way of letting pedestrians know I am approaching. Even though the deck space looks bigger on the S1 there is actually less usable real estate than the MAX G2 which is a problem for me being a taller rider. The stem latch on the deck also interfered with my rear foot position several times which was not an issue on the MAX G2. However the stem latch on the S1 is definitely more trustworthy when folded up and transporting by hand. Carving stability is a little more concerning and wobbly on the S1 due to the reduced deck space, particularly at speeds at or above 25km/h. Braking is definitely more aggressive and less predictable than the MAX G2. I feel like the S1 could definitely throw you over the front handlebars if you hit the brakes hard enough. This results in better emergency stopping lengths for the S1, however there is a trade-off in safety for the rider under normal conditions. The S1 applies both front drum and rear regenerative braking with the one brake lever. The throttle on the S1 is difficult to maintain a coasting speed without pushing the throttle down to maximum position. This is likely due to the increased power of the motor. Unfortunately remaining in sport or drive mode and trying to maintain lower speeds like 15 km/h is tricky due to the sensitivity of the throttle. I definitely found that the throttle was exceedingly twitchy in sport mode to the point of frustration. Having to ride with the throttle fully maxed out regardless of mode is a glaring oversight and definitely a cause for safety concern. Releasing the throttle however was smooth and predictable, which is important. For some reason, despite the extra power of the motors on the S1, I was not able to exceed 30km/h, which could be unlocked in the app or through some other firmware job. However, unlike the MAX G2 I was able to utilise the cruise control once I gained access to the settings in the InMotion app. The cruise control is wonderful on the S1 and is easy to engage simply by holding down the throttle as consistently as possible for a few seconds. It even engaged as low as 7km/h, however as the throttle is a bit twitchy I had trouble locking cruise control on at higher speeds. But at least it worked, and had me grateful to finally be able to rest my hand in the late stages of the test ride. Conclusions The S1 is definitely the pick for power and hill climbing ability for heavier riders as well as range capabilities, but the MAX G2 is the pick for safety and comfort on shorter rides. I would personally buy neither, but instead look for another e-scooter with the best aspects and attributes of both - possibly a Segway with more power or twin motors. InMotion need to sort out their twitchy throttle before I'd consider their e-scooters.

I have had all three, and now just the G2. The G3 is great with its LCD display and superior lighting but the ride is much rougher and the range is about the same. I needed up selling the G3 and returning to the G2 because of the suspension. https://preview.redd.it/xy7x68o9sw1g1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf642cf6e2e216d4f6f1d212159f4a5ddf4590f7

Yeah fair enough. Need to feel comfortable on it for sure. Unfortunately imo no scooter will be as safe as a bike. The Segway G2 (newer model of G30P) has traction control that works really well, check out some of the YouTube reviews, it's actually pretty impressive and a suspension for comfort. Brand name is always worth it imo for e-anything to avoid maintenance costs later (can be quite costly) or avoid getting Chinese garbage.