Turin Grinders - DF54 Single Dose Flat Burr Grinder

Approx how long for a df54 to grind 18g in your experience and what roast beans you using?

I gotta jump on the '54 bandwagon. It's solid and consistent and punches well above it's weight for the price. There are quality replacement burrs already, with more in the pipeline, that should quench your upgrade-itis well into the future as well, and cheaply, relative to larger burrs It was telling in the James Hoffman review mentioned earlier, that it came out on top for both espresso and pour over vs your other contender, among several others. It was obvious that he was impressed with the performance of the '54 overall, so you should feel confident with the purchase with that level of recommendation. You should be all set for kit with the addition of a proper grinder, and can relax and focus on consistent prep!

Perhaps separately each is better at one over the other, but if you are looking for one that does both, I would go with DF54.

You could buy a regular bambino for $250 on amazon or $240 at homegoods, and as for the grinder you could get a encore esp still I believe for $160 and it makes very good coffee. with this combo you probably won't need anything else and the money saved I recommend getting a spring tamper & bottomless portafilter from normcore don't forget a WDT tool and some puck screens! Pretty much what I have currently and it's great but I'm passing down my encore esp to my girlfriend as I ordered a df54 grinder if it's in the budget I'd get a df54

The general consensus is that the DF54 has very good build quality, especially for the price. They seem to be relatively pleased with their Encore, and the DF54 has better build quality than the Encore. Price is a big factor-the DF54 runs about $260 or so with brew burrs, while the Ode 2 is $400.

DF54 is pretty good

Df54 value for money.

If yours clogs, there's a way to mod the declumper so it won't clog. It shouldn't clog in the first place unless you're using a very oily dark roast.

DF54 is so freaking good!

Bambino + DF54, more than enough for great results and an easy workflow. You're sticking to the budget AND getting an amazing electric grinder. More than this is mostly incremental upgrades for someone obsessed with the perfect espresso and with money to spend. You can get amazing results with these two. Also, if he doesn't drink straight espresso, those tiny upgrades won't even really be noticeable in a cappuccino.

The answer is always DF54.

Below is my view - Find the grinder for your type of beans and taste - Then decide if you want hand grinder or electric I had 4 grinders for espresso. I gave away 2 of them. Today I would consider - X ultra, J ultra - K ultra - DF54 esprews burr - DF64 DLC burr - SSP MP - SSP HU There might be other. Good luck

I love my DF54

You'll find that pouring milk into your Cuisinart grinder was the smartest thing you ever did after you get a df54 and realize how much better it is.

I have moved from Kingrinder to DF54 (under the brand AVX over here) one month ago and it's great. Never had a clogging issue, no retention either.

\+1 for the DF54. It's got a wide enough range to do both drip and espresso, and I can fit around 40g or 50g of beans in the hopper; plenty for two-to-three cups.

Hey, it's been amazing. I'm loving it each and every day. No complaints at all.

DF54 w/ brew burrs.

I did to and it's been great

DF54 if you can stretch to £220. Earl coffee have non-black colours for £219 on eBay.

Under $250, you would be looking at a Baratza Encore ESP, DF54, or KitchenAid KCG8433. The Baratza is an excellent choice for reliability and easy repairability. Parts are readily available, and it's a good grinder. The DF54 is the most popular coffee nerd/enthusiast choice. It's a flat burr grinder with excellent performance and the ability to change the burrs. It's basically a Chinese OEM grinder, however-so support is more dependent upon the retailer. The KitchenAid KCG8433 is very nice at $179-often goes on sale for $139. It's the least expensive of these three choices. KitchenAid's track record as a company speaks for itself. I personally own the KitchenAid (along with several other grinders)-I like the ergonomics and it does a nice job. It's a quiet grinder and very good for the money, if not necessarily a popular coffee nerd choice. There are great choices if you expand the budget, but it's really easy to go down that rabbit hole. Also, just get a separate scale. I've seen only one grinder in this price range that grinds by weight-a $129 grinder on Amazon by a company named Mokkom. FWIW, it seems to get good ratings on Amazon, but clearly would be a bit of a gamble. I'm comfortable with making that kind of gamble, but not everyone is.

Then I think you should go for DF54 , I was under the impression that you will not be going for espresso. Since you plan to go for espresso DF54 would be a great one sending the Link in your DM

It can, especially if the inner burr adjustment is utilized along with the main grind dial. The Encore ESP will be better for espresso, as it has more range at that end with 20 grind settings specifically for espresso. However, the KitchenAid has more range overall with more than 70 grind settings, not including the inner burr fine adjustment settings. This is not unlike the Fellow Opus, which is another option that I did not mention. The KitchenAid also comes with a portafilter holder for grinding directly into a portafilter, whereas the Encore ESP does not. The anti-static catch cup on the KitchenAid works very well too. There obviously is no perfect grinder at this price point, or any price point for that matter. Which is why I presented these 3 choices-the OP then can decide which mix of features works best and which weaknesses they can live with. The DF54 probably offers the most raw performance, but has the most day-to-day usability quirks from what I can see. The Encore ESP will offer very good espresso performance, but is a bit basic in its features and day-to-day use. The KitchenAid, IMHO, has the best ergonomics for daily use, especially for beginners and regular coffee drinkers. It's pick your poison. OP, honestly, you may want to consider having two grinders-one for espresso, and one for everything else. Even if a grinder can handle both filter and espresso well, it's a pain switching back and forth between them-especially for redialing your espresso grind. Many coffee enthusiasts have a two grinder setup.

I own a hand grinder for my drip coffee too. However, in a pinch, if I needed to use my DF54 for drip coffee, I know I could. Is it the best for drip ? No. Is it the worse for drip ? no. So if I need a 2 in 1 it would be my choice. Having said that, I am foremost, an espresso drinker so I am happy with my DF54.

I use two grinders. I use a DF54 exclusively for espresso, and my Shardor antistatic 48 settings conical burr grinder for everything else. It's a pretty good grinder for drip, pour overs, and french press, but I won't use it for espresso, since grinding for espresso is unforgiving and the Shardor grinder just isn't as consistent for that as the DF54.

As much as I dislike the DFs for their teething issues so far, I will concede that they have a decent grinder in the DF54, for the price point. However, not a lot of choices in 54mm space, so you're a little bit stuck unless you perform [some surgery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnoqcns4dc). The other contender is the Encore ESP. So much plastic. But a respectable burr for a broad range of espresso and filter roast levels. I would avoid the Breville Smart Grinder for its jankiness. It makes passable cups for dark roast only, and has poor prospects for repairs/upgrades. Similarly, I think Eurekas in general are quite overpriced and hard to use because of their antediluvian grind chamber design (lots of retention) and what might possibly be the industry's most user-unfriendly grind adjustment knob (tiny diameter, unable to calibrate/zero, small adjustments all but impossible due to thread lash, easy to lose track of revolutions). Also, Eureka seems insistent on undersized, under populated, (and underperforming) burrs of proprietary specs, so upgrading/exploring other burrs is not possible. Kidding-not-kidding recommendation: amzn has a $170 grinder from Shardor that can host standard 64mm flat burrs. The grinder itself is a plastic copy of a Mazzer Super Jolly, down to the aggressively sprung but huge grind adjustment dial. However, the grind chamber and carrier are well machined, with a properly sized exit path/chute. Save a few bucks, invest in a pair of SSP MPs or Ditting Cast LS, and call it a day. Hope that helps, let us know how you get on

Yes i had a moment of "maybe the DF54?" but concerns would be mostly how it handles light roast, which many be seldom, but will still be.

I have a K2 that is now my Pour Over grinder, and I just got a DF54 a couple weeks ago.

It's definitely more "prosumer" than a lot of the other cheaper grinders, but I feel just as much as the DF54 that everyone is now acting like is the greatest grinder to ever exist... im thinking about picking up a manuale as a cheap, sturdy, repairable, flat burr grinder since I have an ESP (conical) that does a decent job but I occasionally feel i need more granularity and I do enjoy flat burr profiles now that ive tried them.

Thx for the data point. This is what my current grinder does too.

Also know that some the data you posted is meaningless :) People recommend the DF54 based solely on the price for a flat Burr grinder. With as many horror stories of poor quality, and defects, both here and on home barista, people still recommend it. Why? It's inexpensive for a flat Burr grinder. Edit - thank you for supplying the data.

I have DF54 would not recommend as single grinder, Im not sure if I can recommend it at all but it's just my experience. I think you can get best hand grinder for pourover (K6, ZP6 or J Ultra or even K Ultra) I have K Ultra and use it when DF54 clogged.

DF54 is excellent for light roast filter coffee if you get the brew burrs.

Went for the DF54 because it was packaged with the machine I wanted for a Cyber Monday bundle. I think even without the bundle I would have went to route of the DF54 just because I like the way the shape is more. Just had a nice look to it being a cylinder. From what I've read and watched on YouTube everyone mentions how awesome it is especially for the price so I'm sure I won't be disappointed :)

This is the upper end of your price range, but I've been really happy with my Turin D54. It'll grind for espresso, of course, but I also use it for AeroPress, pour-overs, and drip. Grind size seems really consistent. Grind setting 73 for drip, something in the 50s for V60, something in the 40s for AeroPress, and espresso is down between 12-8. The bellows action really lowers the need for maintenance: I've opened it up twice this year and there were hardly any fines for me to clean out. Just use the provided brush on the chute about once a week and you'll be fine. I decided on the D54 after watching James Hoffman's video review: [The Best Espresso Grinder Under £250](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7xGhGtvYIs). If you get it, just remember that you have to switch the grinder on if you want to reduce the grind size (make it finer). My one complaint is that the end of the rubber bellows doesn't grip the steel of the burr chamber opening very well at all. If it was just a couple of mm smaller, it would be a nice, snug fit. This hasn't been a problem, but I have knocked it off accidentally just by brushing against it. If I did that while I had beans in there they'd spill everywhere.

Have you tried the df64 italmill on pourovers? It's great, much clearer than a k-ultra! I think the df54 is a good choice, if you plan to use it for spro. Or you can get the ode gen2, maybe swap burrs to play with. Edit: if you dont own one handgrinder, get the zp6 or the k6. They're both worth your penny even if you get both lol

Agree on the DF54. Fantastic value for price. Hand grinding is not bad for one drink, I kind of even enjoy it, but it gets real old if friends are over and you have to make more than one.