Durston - X-Mid 2

I also use a Xmid 2 with a dog. I like chilling on warm evenings with both vestibules rolled back, but net zipped closed. Lots of space for me and the dog and gear.

pioneer a 1.5 person tent, i found the helm 2 too tight for 2 and personally i think it is overrated, saggy inner and unless you are under 6 foot too short either side of the centre. I have a hubbahubba clone and we find it fine for 2. Our main tent is an X-Mid 2 and that appears to tick all your boxes. Easily best 2 person tent we have used.

If you live somewhere damp, you can't go wrong with the X-Mid. If you live somewhere dry, consider the single-wall The Two from Gossamer. It's a tad harder to set up but quite a lot lighter.

Thanks! I decided to go for the x mid 2 :)

I got a solid inner with my x-mid because it was what was available at the time (they were still doing the drops, no stock on hand). No appreciable difference in condensation that I've noticed. Even if there's some on the fly, the inner stays dry. Since the inner has nothing to do with stormproof that's a wash for me. I might get the mesh inner at some point to have the option. I've also used it without the inner to have all the space inside, which is nice, I sat inside in the rain using my stove because floorless tents are cool that way. I have tyvek for use as a groundsheet under the pad.

Hi all, First ever post on Reddit, so bear with me. :) I'm looking for advice on tents. I currently have the Lanshan 1 (3 season). It's my first ever light weight tent and I bought it because it's relatively cheap (EU, €150/$165) and I wasn't sure how much I was actually gonna use it (new to multi-day hiking). I've used it for a few short trips over the past year and I like it: easy to set up, weight etc. The thing is that I (will) use the tent in bad weather. I'm based in the Netherlands (rains a lot) and plan on hiking the West Highland Way (Scotland, 96 miles/154 km) en Kungsleden (Swedish Lapland, 273 miles/450 km) this year. I'm not a 'hike all day, go straight to bed' person and prefer to wait out really bad weather in my tent. For just sleeping, the lanshan 1 is fine. But when spending more time inside in bad weather, it's too small. I can't comfortably sit up straight without touching the inner. Also, because the open space between floor and vestibules is quite high, my bag (mariposa 60) only stays dry if I keep it in the middle of the vestibule. Having only 1 vestibule, this is a bit annoying going in and out (especially in the middle of the night when it's raining). So I'm thinking of upgrading to a new tent. Things to consider: - Will use the tent for 1p and I'm 6 feet tall. I use a wide rectangular sleeping pad ((I keep falling of mummy shaped pads) my pad is 183 x 65 cm / 72 x 25.6 in). - Tent will be used in humid/wet/stormy climate like Swedish Lapland and Scotland. - I always hike with poles, so free standing doesn't really make sense for me. - Tarp not an option, I don't like mosquito's and mud/water inside :) - I like the idea of two doors/vestibules: more storage space, my stuff not begin in the way when getting in and out and the option to open both vestibules when chilling inside. - Budget: I don't mind spending a bit of money since I will use it quite a lot, but a tent like the Bonfus 2p just feels like too much (€700/$760) compared to the lanshan and durston tents. I'm based in the EU and many cheaper US options are not so cheap over here. I'm now considering the - 3 season Lanshan PRO 2 (price in EU: €230/$250 & 1060 gr/37 oz) - Durston x mid 1 (price in EU: €345/$377 & 795gr/25 oz) - Durston x mid 2 (price in EU: €395/$429 & 880 g/31 oz). Wondering if people can say something about spaciousnes of these tents when spending some time inside? Can you sit up comfortably etc? Advice on other tents/options also very welcome! :) EDIT: Hi everyone! Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and ideas, really appreciate it! I decided to go for the x mid 2 and while looking for EU vendors, I found a second hand x mid pro 2 on an online marketplace in my country. So I now have the extra space of the 2p for less weight than the regular 1p (although I am spending more than initially planned tho, oh well). I expect the condensation will be manageable since I'll be sleeping alone in the 2p and won't touch the walls. We'll see :) thanks again!

Durston Gear X-Mid all the way, baby!

I'm late 50's backpacker. You want to go as light as possible. Your knees may be fine now, but maybe not in 3 years. I have problems with my knees, and hip, my lower weight really helps. You should consider weight for everything you buy. You don't need to go full ultralight (r/ultralight), but you should pay attention. The durston xmid is a very popular light tent (treking pole tent). They make a 1 person and a two person tent. Many hikers already carry poles, if not you should consider it. Many skip the footprint, it isn't needed. If you really want one, buy a piece of tivex from Amazon and cut it so that it is a little SMALLER than the floor of your tent. You can buy small pieces of tivex on Amazon for ~$20. Many hike the entirety of the PCT or AT without a footprint.

That's a long lead time! It's a solid tent tho, I'm really happy with mine. You could check r/ulgeartrade - I feel like I see someone selling a xmid every week.

I think it really depends on how big the two people are and how big your tent is. My husband is 6'4 and he takes up his entire side of the tent, but I'm 5'4 and I sleep on my side comfortably with our 37 lb dog at my head. We're planning to get another 20 lb dog without upgrading our tent. As others mention, check your dimensions and find one that works for you! We have an xmid 2 and it works well for us.

Thank you! Great points. The sagging fabric of the Lanshan is a bit annoying, especially when hiding out from the rain and I feel the tent becoming smaller and keep reorganizing my stuff so nothing touches the inner. Decided to go for the xmid 2! I'm keeping the Lanshan 1, nice to have an extra option.

Depends on the dog but my 6kg hiking buddy is an idiot with single walls. He ends up wet in the morning as he has no awareness of the condensation on the tent walls and then proceeds to shake it off. Sounds like you've pretty much decided on the x-mid 2. Again, depends on the dog but if mine can see something out the mesh he wants to get to he will run at it forgetting it's there or paw it. A solid interior stops him from doing this.

Have Durston xmid2 - the product is unbeatable at this price point and they struck the ideal value proposition for UL gear. Sure, a few extra hundred dollars might get you 1oz lighter from a premium brand, but it's not usually as good in terms of practicality. Durston hit the exact point of maximizing quality, features, and weight before diminishing returns on price

"Camping gear" is so broad as to be almost meaningless.... I love camping, I've camped all my life, but it's impossible to reccomend anything with such a wide remit. My lightest backpacking tent (Xmid) weighs less than 700g and is fabulous for what it does. My heaviest 'tent' is our family folding camper (a Pennine Pathfinder) at 1000kg. That's also fabulous, but completely incomparable. Then there's a whole range of tents in between. The same applies to all my other camping gear, from pans and stoves to sleeping solutions and chairs... it's such a massive case of fitting the item to the purpose. And some certainly is BIFL worthy, while other stuff may compromise durability for lightness or some other priority. Tell us a little more about what you want to do? - car camping, backpacking, trailer camping - and in what terrain/environment and you might get something more useful.

Either handlebar or front fork. It is a Durston Xmid, I keep the poles and stakes in my frame bag.

I was lucky and found a hubba 1p on clearance for £100 at go outdoors. It's a decent tent but there's no way I would pay full price for it. I massively prefer my x-mid

I never loved pitching my Xmid, it's a genius design and fabulous when pitched properly, but I always felt like a slightly wrong pitch made it perform worse than you'd think it would. But, I'm 99% a hammock guy and only take a tent when a trail isn't great for hammocks. So, most likely because I wasn't pitching it enough to get a feel for it.

X- mid with a solid pitch (harder to achieve on uneven sites) is quite sturdy. I carry a couple of MSR Groundhog stakes to use in looser soil.

For me the difference between the one entrance at the head end to two entrances (one on each side) would be the big selling point. I've hiked with a naturehike tent once, while sharing the tent. And found that one entrance to be a dealbreaker for me, while I've shared tents with two side entrances no problem as that allows you that little bit of freedom to comfortably exit without bothering the other person. Might be less important when it's your partner, but I know it really matters for me. So I would definitely think the upgrade to a xmid 2 is worth the price even if it's not that much weight (already significant enough with the v3 I'd say).

2 person tents are only big enough for one person. 2 Pygmy's at best I like the Durston XMid. 2 person.

Look at the X-Mids. Superb value, superb tents.

If you are Canadian and want to support a Canadian company buy a durston gear tent. Depending on your budget for two people I would go with the x mid 2 or the x mid 2+ pro. The floor on the 2+ pro allows for two wide pads. If you don't care about the Canadian aspect of it look at the tarptent stratospire models or the new mesospire models. Z packs also makes good light tents but I have always felt their two person tents are a little small for two people.

You don't need a 3 person tent, you need a Durston X-mid 2. It's SO SPACIOUS for a 2-p tent. Our sleeping pads don't touch each other's, and there's room at the foot of the tent for our clothes and my camera and anything else we want to bring inside. Big vestibules, and very lightweight. It's a hiking pole tent, so you do need poles.

Lanshan 2 is a perfectly decent tent for the price point, I have no complaints about mine other than the typical trade offs that style of trekking pole tent has, but the durston X-mid 2 is not much more and is probably a better value.

towards the end in a larger group I was skinny pitching my 1p durston and both 2p tents in my group had 2 people in them just to fit in tent sites. honestly 2p solo tents in some of the sites on this trail felt like a selfish move. if you fit in a 1p, you aren't spending enough time in it to need extra space, save the weight. except the very very tall, solo 2p durston owners seemed to agree it was a little ridiculous to hog that kind of real estate. it was usually their first ul tent. 1p durston owners should all know how to skinny pitch. for one thing, it saves you when your door zippers start to go. in bad weather, 1p let me sneak off to a tiny wind protected ledge and have a peaceful night. 2p would have been stuck w the brunt of the wind up on the ridge spots established by fair weather weekenders....

Yes the recommendations will be flooding in for the Durston! I had the 1p but didn't like it only because I am tall and it felt claustrophobic for me. Got a 2p and it's great. The new Durston Xdome if you want a free standing tent is amazing and I am hoping for a dyneema / Xdome Pro Version to be released. Everyone will say get the Durston, you just have to figure out which one is best for you

For less than $200, the Lanshan 2 or the pro 2 is a good option. It's popular as a budget trekking pole tent. If you don't already have poles, I use $30 cascade aluminum trekking poles from amazon and they're solid and reasonably light if I'm carrying them instead of using them. For a little more money, I really like my Durston Xmid 2, but it's \~$260.

My two suggestions are basically more about the companies. The less budget suggestion is Durston. Though, not all of their tents are actually that expensive. Some of them are pretty affordable. When you get into the dyneema tents that's where it's expensive. The X-Men Pro 2 plus is going to be expensive. But it's lightweight. It's easier setup you just have to learn how to do it right to get a tight pitch. However, an XMid 2 it's still pretty light. Both of these options are trekking pole tents. If you were going to use trekking poles anyway, you could look at these to save weight. But they also sell polls for these tents which are not that heavy if you didn't want to use trekking poles. There's also the Durston X Dome 2. That's freestanding ish. If you want a more budget option, look at Naturehike. They're pretty affordable. And review well. My understanding is that because Durston sells direct, they aren't likely to be on sale. I don't know that Naturehike will be on sale. But you may keep an eye out for a Black Friday special on them. Be aware of where you are ordering them from and if there are any tariffs on them. Amazon should tell you if there is one.

I have the Lanshan and the X-Mid. Both 2 Pro. Both are terrific tents. The Lanshan is perhaps the better value because of its low price. The X-Mid is the better performer because of its lighter weight and clever design. Both are fine 2 person tents with excellent materials and well performing layouts; although both are cramped for two people.

Durston X-Mid Edit: missed that you said freestanding. I haven't personally used the X-Dome but it's made by the same guy out of the same materials, so I'd assume similar quality. The X-Mid has worked really well for me on all types of terrain.

I got a Xmid 2 for me and my medium size dog too. I also considered the lunar solo and was looking at the 1p Stratospire. I haven't had issues with the footprint being big, but that might just be luck/locality. I'm glad I got a double wall tent - the condensation from a panting dog+regular environmental concerns is intense even in a double wall. I do use it when I'm solo (and it's overkill), but have considered picking up a one person tent for the weight savings.

I own an X-mid 2 and don't think you could keep two people's stuff inside the inner comfortably. I usually pull clothes and electronics in but leave the bag, shoes etc in the vestibules.

I've never heard of them but products from their parent company, DAC are ubiquitous in high end backpacking gear. I'd give a design like the sololite a try. The vestibule comes separately adding a lot of cost. I see two big problems with this tent; * Shipping stuff overseas to Canada can be a big PITA. I'm not sure where you are purchasing it but but "Bigtent Explore" option may largely avoid shipping being a PITA and that store seems to be the main place to buy them. * If you decide to sell this tent it will be difficult due to the lack of name recognition. Durston's a Canadian company that manufacturers extremely popular tents and if you want a high end option they are worth a look. I'd recommend starting with a freestanding tent like the X-Mid. I primarily use a different tent but I've been extremely impressed by one of their trekking pole tents I own. Another option is more budget oriented tents. NatureHike makes a bunch of fairly light tents (CloudUP, Mongar) and imho they are more durable than the extreme ultralight tents. If you do get serious about backpacking, you can later upgrade from a budget tent. Personally I use less expensive tents when camping close to vehicles as weight isn't a major concern and I'm less worried about damaging them. If you later decide to get a ultralight 1 person tent, the extra space of a two person will be greatly appreciated when weight isn't a concern. Go to MEC or another outdoor store (Not Atmosphere / Sportchek) and start trying on packs and find one that fits well. Keep a few in mind and purchase one that will fit the rest of your great and aim for a 60L or smaller pack. As long as you have a sleeping bag designed for backpacking that uses down and / or synthetic materials and has an appropriate comfort temperature rating its hard to go wrong.

From north of Europe here. After getting winds through an MSR tent once I woved to stay with local brands, of whom you have several. Hilleberg, Fjellreven, Helsport and Barents Outdoor are all made for rough conditions. But not ultralight, even if lighter versions. A few years ago we went above the arctic cirkle with a local brand dome tent, and a Durston Mid trekking tent. We got really strong gusts that hit the camp, and the local brand poles snapped straight off, while the Durston stood firm. I was really impressed. Personally I prefer dome tents, as they are easy to move about, and can stand without any plugs if fair weather. Also can pitch anywhere, unlike those that rely on plugs. If I was in the market I would try the Durston Dome now. The lay out off outer vs inner tent gives the greatest length and height on the market, by far. Get the 2p and you can lie even more diagonally inside.

If you can stretch the budget just a llittle or do some sales hunting, consider the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL2 OR MSR Hubba Hubba NX 2 OR Durston X-Mid 2. [11 Best 2-Persons Tent for Camping and Backpacking](https://alaskanarrows.com/11-best-2-person-tent-camping-and-backpacking/) can help with the others. They're are all 3-season tents with better fabrics, stronger pole architecture, roomier vestibules and more thoughtful details (doors, vents, zips) than budget models. They'll be heavier and cost more than the Cloud-Up versions but they're way more durable and comfortable long term, take it from me, I've gone on countless trips with various types of tents so yeah! If $300 is a hard cap, watch for sales or used tents online, you'll find something!

🧡🧡 x-mid 2. It packs light and small and has a remarkably discreet footprint. And it's tough enough that a big dog doing dog things won't shred it to pieces.

X-Mid 2. Ridiculously good value (even being the most expensive on the list) and lighter than the other options. I got the Pro 2 for the AT later this year and the amount of room, ease of setup etc. is awesome, though the Pro is... not cheap. It hurt... but it won't hurt my back!

Oh boy do I have a ~~cult~~ tent for you! Check out the Durston Xmid 1 or 2, not the pro versions. They are double wall and only 25oz for the 1p (lots of storage in vestibules still) and 31oz for the 2p. Best part is they are nearly half the price of those other tents!