Big Agnes - Tiger Wall UL2

My go to two person tent is a three person. I highly recommend Big Agnes tigerwall or copper spur. Kinda pricy but sometimes they go on sale.

I got the BA and love it. Super light and easy to pack

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I love the Big Agnes Tiger Wall UL2! I don't agree you need a 3p for 2 people though. I've had two in mine many times. It's just tight and your bags have to go outside. If you want more room though, yeah the 3p bc the 2p is tiiiiight lol

Tiger Wall is the GOAT tent. Light, 3 season but can be taken to below freezing, strong AF. I would note that if you are buying a 2 person tent, buy the 3 person tigerwall, not the 2

Both me and my partner love my Durston x-mid 2. Rock solid tent, fairly light weight, wasn't ridiculously expensive, and decently roomy! Once you get the hang of setting it up it's super easy and quick. My partner has a big Agnes, which is great, a little lighter but super tight for both of us.

I actually have both and have used them with my two kids (slightly older Copper Spur 3). Two kids, 13 and 16, and me on 20 inch wide pads. They both worked fine (used the Copper Spur when they were younger). The newer Tiger Wall felt a bit more spacious.

If it has to be between these two, tiger wall no contest. Copper spur is fine tent but the extra weight is pointless. I used my tiger wall for the azt and at, wouldn't hesitate to take it on the pct. I used a fly creek for two pct thrus.

I have the XMid Pro 2 and backpack with one of our huskies almost every trip. Mika is 45lbs, Max is 50lbs. Just one dog and me fit easily with extra room for gear. Two people and one of our dogs would work but be tight. (replaced a Strat Li but below applies to both tents) To protect the floor, I bring a full size z-fold pad (generic z-lite). I cut it into two pieces - about 1/3 and 2/3rds. I place them together to put where the dog will be sleeping. I cut it into two pieces so that I can use the 2/3rd piece under my pad in the event I get cold. They can still use the 1/3rd. I lay a costco quilt over the top of the pad. The like to "dig" sometimes. Between the pad and quilt, it protects the floor long enough until I can tell them to stop. For just casual walking in and out of the tent, laying down etc, there would be no need to protect the floor. Kneeling on a sharp rock or stick would probably do more damage than a dog stepping on the floor. We also have a Big Agnes UL2 and UL3 we've used for people and dogs. Only damage to any of the tents (first time out in a brand new UL3) was when I walked away with the dog in the tent and she paw'd at the screen and ripped it. Luckily, she hit the pocket so it didn't affect the door.

Tigerwall tents will not work. I tried them and at 6'2" they were both too small. The long/xl versions of CopperSpur might work. Tarptent makes two that may work. The Dipole 1/2 or Rainbow but they will be tight. Op see this https://youtu.be/2l8Hqb8zYD4?si=17gDa5pYLwekEkpA

The best bang for your buck when it comes to livable space, size and amount of pockets, ease of setup and teardown, and quality is the **Big Agnes Tiger Wall**, followed closely by the **Big Agnes Copper Spur**. I've tried literally dozens of tents and cannot recommend those enough. They are spendy, but when it comes to a freestanding tent that's durable and reliable, these things are really, really tough to beat. I see them all the time on thru-hikes like thet Colorado Trail, CDT, and PCT where rain / random mountain weather is common. A close second is the semi-freestanding **MSR Freelite 2 or 3**. It's also a solid, bombproof tent that's lightweight. My only real complaint about it is the cutout on one end effectively makes one narrow end a single-wall, which can condensate and get soaked in long periods of rain. But, it also dries fast, and ventilation is so effective it's rarely ever been an issue for me. Final recommendation if you want a non-freestanding tent is the **Six Moons Designs Lunar Duo.** Trekking pole tent that's budget-friendly, comfy, and just big enough for two people. Much more limited headspace compared to the above, but vestibules are large enough that I've never had an issue. Good luck!

Ive had my big agnes longer than any other tent ive owned so far! I think its at least ten years old.

Hiked the PCT this year and to be honest it was about 50/50 of trekking pole tents vs semi-freestanding. I started with a Nemo Hornet which I ended up switching out due to zipper issues to the Tiger Wall UL2. Loved the Tiger Wall but the 2 person felt quite large for me. For sure a mansion. Here I am sure everyone will tell you that they are sooo heavy and to get a trekking pole tent. You can save some weight but saw several in busier areas struggle to find spots since they take up much more space. Big Durston fan as well but met a ton of people with zipper issues on trail. One of my favorite parts of a semi-freestanding is sleeping without the rain fly and seeing the stars and sky which you can do about 90% of the time on the PCT. No views in your trekking pole tents.

I would recommend the Tiger Wall personally. The previously mentioned resource is nice but it is kind of overselling the copper spur a bit. What it says is mostly true but in those categories where the Copper Spur wins it is by a marginal amount and not worth the extra weight on a thru hike. I also had a friend on the PCT last year who used the Tiger Wall and really liked it.

Their last great innovation was the Tiger wall and fly creek tents. All downhill from there. Even their warranty is shit now, any excuse to not cover a a defect

Big Agnes _**Copper Spur HV UL2**_ Hands down best bang for your buck. Comfy when solo with gear inside, or with a future partner - be it canine or human - you both have a dedicated entrance vestibule (that props up like a tarp shade as well). --- Already own another 2p tent and truly talking solo spend to shed weight? **Tiger Wall UL1** That 2p Kelty is practically 5lbs, seriously get a 1-2lb tent. Curious what model your other existing 1p was; it a front crawl entrance type, not tall all the way to feet, at 3lbs? A new TW UL2 might be your jam.

We really love our big agnes. It's durable, huge and comfy without being too heavy. it's about 4lbs so my husband and I split the weight. It's really thoughtfully desiged, and has so many pockets to stash stuff. super roomy footprint. It's like the Taj Mahal of tents

Op asked about none of that. I based my recommendation off of ops question. Full stop. You don't need to answer questions people aren't asking. Also don't really agree with your negative points as they're really mostly non issues. Campsite space is not a thing to worry about. It will almost never come up, especially on the pct. Space in pack also nothing. I used my tiger wall with a 40L pack easy, could for sure go smaller. Also sacrificing 2" in length for more overall space is a perfectly reasonable trade off. I genuinely do not believe that you saw no one using a 2p tents you just didn't notice.

I found a BA UL2 in their 2nd hand store a few years ago, such a steal, have not looked back

Try the REI re/supply. I got a Big Agnes tent that retails for $499 for $134. Also, REI sale is coming up in a few weeks and there will probably be a good deal on their own brand tents and others.

Yes, think about it a little more. Start lurking in r/ultralight as well to see both sides of the arguments. Nothing wrong with a double-wall tent, and I love mine. But the number of nights I camped with only my tent, but not the fly? Very, very few. Look into the "rule of 2" for your big-three items. It states that your target weight (not requirement, but target) is: * 2lbs for your sleep system * 2lbs for your shelter system * 2lbs for your pack/load-hauling system * ≈6lbs for all three together Again, it's a target, not a dictum. But keeping track of your base weight is one of the single most important metrics you can do. Think of it this way: If the single-wall trekking pole tents were not effective...why would they exist? And why would they command their price point and loyalty? You might get one, or not, but I'd hesitate to be prematurely dismissive. . . . . . . . . . _Any thoughts on the Durston Xmid1 or Xmid2_ They're proven, and terrific...and they take up a large footprint at the camp sight. That's really my only complaint. They're hard to fit if a campsight is crowded, but folks make it work every year. You kinda owe it to your self to look into "all the usual suspects" for single-wall trekking pole supported tents (Durston, Z-Pack, etc.) so you understand the trade-offs. i.e. Present-day lack of skill is NOT sufficient reason to not get a single-wall trekking pole supported tent. Because by night 10, you'll have the skills to pitch the tent. Choose your tent based upon its merits and your priorities.

Surprised there is no mention of the Big Agnes Tiger Wall yet. My partner and I used that for our thru all the way back in 2019 and it's still going strong. I think it's a great combination of affordable, light, easy to use, etc.

I have the UL2 and it's a great tent. It looks like the design of both is very similar, but the tiger wall is slightly lighter. WRT durability the fabric is quite thin so I always carry a footprint, but no durability issues with about 2 weeks total use time. All that being said if you have multiple little ones both of these tents are probably going to be quite cramped for you. Even if you only have one I regret going with the two person over the three when I take my girlfriend camping with me.

General comment on the BA Fly Creek: If you're considering the Fly Creek, get the Tiger Wall instead. It is basically the same sent, but the difference is having two side entrances on the Tiger Wall vs. a single rear entrance on the Fly Creek. With two adults (especially two adults and two kids), you'll be tripping over each other if you do not make having _two side entrances_ a must-have feature for a _backpacking_ tent. If you were getting a car camping tent, which would be much larger and spacious, you could get away with a single entrane. But not a backpacking tent. TL;DR - Fly Creek is a great tent, just probably not the right design for your application.

Right now REI is clearing out excellent Big Agnes 2P tents. They're the best for the price. Light, tough, freestanding. Easy setup. No gimmicks.

Tough to choose light AND strong. Since the strength comes from the tent poles and lighter tends use less tent poles. I would say the strength would also come from how and where you pitch the tent. Pitching it slightly protected or if the wind will help a ton. Also pitching the vestibule into the wind will help with the aerodynamics. Don't just pitch the tent any which way. Think about how the wind will hit the tent. Check out Big Agnes... I've been in some blizzards with them... held the weight of the snow and kept Standing after heavy winds

https://geartrade.ca/ they stock a bit of budget gear and they are not amazon. Also try thelasthunt.com, and https://www.sportchek.ca/en.html they can have some good gear in clearance. I really enjoy my big agnes tent and they are available in long, but they are pricy when not on sale.

I went from a BA Tiger Wall to the Hornet. BA makes good tents but they are just a tad lighter and more delicate. I wouldn't use my Tiger Wall without some sort of a ground cloth. Also they tend to be brighter inside which can either be nice or a real pain depending on whether you're getting up early or trying to sleep in. I have a friend who loves the Durston tents and has suggested a xmid to me a few times. I just really like how quickly I can get the Hornet set up or broke down. Out west where it's dry it matters less but when I've been in really wet areas like the AT or this year on the ADT through Ohio I like having a separate rainfly. That way I can put the soaking wet fly on the top of my pack to dry as I walk and the dry ish inner can go inside my pack in dry or damp storage

I used the BA Tiger Wall UL2 on my PCT. _Between the two?_...save the weight. Get the BA Tiger Wall UL2. You do not need a fully freestanding tent, and you can't really justify the weight penalty when you have so many other priorities. (Remember: You could carry an extra 200ml/≈6oz of water at _all times_ and be weight neutral. Or 3 more energy bars. That matters more than learning how to pitch a tent.) _Would I get it again?_...yes. The Tiger Wall UL2 is a proven design for a great tent. HOWEVER, knowing what I know now? I'd get a trekking pole supported tent and save even more weight. > _if there was a reason why people have been choosing the copper spur instead of the tiger wall._ Yes, the reason is usually that they are "packing their fears". Again, you absolutely do not "need_ a fully free standing tent. Save the weight. . . . . . . . . **Any other comment on the Tiger Wall UL2?** If you're hiking solo, it's got _plenty_ of space inside. It can fit two people snug, but with a single hiker you can lay out your kit however you like. It's just a really versatile size. There is also a "gear loft" type shelf for drying stuff out, etc. Also, the "fast fly" option is really nice, and it works as designed. I could deploy shelter from rain ins <2min. But again...all thing equal...I'd get a single-wall treking pole supported tent.

There is no problem with ventilation in Tiger Wall since the inner tent is almost entirely mesh the amount of air coming through under the fly is plenty. But if you want a semi-freestanding tent I would rather recommend Mountain Hardwear Strato UL 2, it has more space. Not sure if you can find it for £300 though. Between the ones you consider X-mid is actually the champion in terms of space inside.

I also got that Tiger Wall sale. It's gonna be my "friend wants to try backpacking" tent.

I bought a Big Agnes UL2 Tiger Wall for $134 at the REI resupply section. If there's a store near you it might be worth checking that out regularly.